From: Pat LaVarre <p.lavarre@ieee.org>
To: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Cc: dougg@torque.net, patmans@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Request for review of Linux iSCSI driver version 4.0.0.1
Date: 10 Dec 2003 17:12:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1071101529.28943.48.camel@patibmrh9> (raw)
> Date: 2003-11-07 8:55:01
> From: Doug Gilbert ...
> ....
> ** There is also the Power Condition mode
> page that all SCSI devices may optionally
> support. Trouble is with my SCSI-3 disks they
> either don't support it or the one that does
> gives ASC/ASCQ=04/02 when the disk is spun
> down (violating SPC-3).
We have a specific spc 3 rev and clause in mind?
> Date: 2003-11-10 17:43:22
> From: Patrick Mansfield
> ...
> whoever spun down the drive should spin it up.
> ...
> Whatever caused the spin down should spin it back up.
Auto spin up doesn't work with much direct-attached Windows.
For example, people say Win ME/9X in particular limit ATA/PI read to
7.5+0.5s. For a device whose spinup exceeds 7s, the only scheme I've
ever seen work there is to notify the host e.g. via SK ASC ASCQ x 2 04
02 that some other thread spun down the drive. I hear XP/ 2K/ NT need
ASCQ x02 whereas ME/ 9X properly understood that x00 in SCSI ASCQ by
definition means x00..FF and thus ME/ 9X do match x00 with x02.
> Date: 2003-12-03 22:57:58
> From: Scott M. Ferris ...
> ...
> Somebody really needs to come up with a cache
> design that doesn't silently discard unwritten
> data when block writes start failing ...
Aye.
> especially problematic on network SCSI
> transports like Fibre Channel and iSCSI, where
> network problems can cause all sorts of
> failures not commonly seen with parallel
> SCSI, USB, or any other direct-attached storage.
Loss of write-behind also occurs perceptibly often in direct-attached
storage.
dvd+rw/ cd-rw in particular often round up 2 KiB write requests to 32 or
64 KiB read-modify-write, and thus destroy blocks not even addressed
(e.g. parts of other udf.ko files allotted in 2 KiB blocks) when writes
fail.
Pat LaVarre
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2003-12-11 0:12 Pat LaVarre [this message]
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2003-12-11 15:47 Re:Request for review of Linux iSCSI driver version 4.0.0.1 N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-12 12:48 ` Request " Matthew Wilcox
2003-12-12 15:29 ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-13 2:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-01 12:30 Naveen Burmi
2003-12-01 14:08 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-12-01 18:48 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-01 19:23 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-01 16:20 ` Roman Zippel
2003-12-01 17:19 ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-01 20:06 ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-01 20:31 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-01 20:58 ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-02 3:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-02 12:02 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-12-02 13:57 ` Roman Zippel
2003-12-02 11:56 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-12-02 14:11 ` Roman Zippel
2003-12-02 16:37 ` James Bottomley
2003-12-02 17:42 ` Mike Anderson
2003-12-02 23:55 ` James Bottomley
2003-12-02 23:41 ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-03 14:06 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-12-03 15:09 ` James Bottomley
2003-12-03 17:03 ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-03 17:32 ` James Bottomley
2003-12-03 17:54 ` Mike Anderson
2003-12-03 20:31 ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-03 21:14 ` James Bottomley
2003-12-03 21:53 ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-03 22:57 ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-03 20:45 ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-03 21:19 ` James Bottomley
2003-12-11 11:21 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-12-03 22:15 ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-03 22:32 ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-03 23:24 ` Mike Anderson
2003-12-06 19:37 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-07 0:37 ` Roman Zippel
2003-11-21 11:40 Shashi Kiran T.R
2003-11-21 17:56 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-10-23 12:04 Krishna Murthy
2003-10-27 15:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-10-29 13:23 ` Surekha.PC
2003-10-29 13:45 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-10-29 17:28 ` Mike Christie
2003-10-29 18:45 ` Clay Haapala
2003-10-29 19:01 ` Mike Christie
2003-10-29 19:17 ` Clay Haapala
2003-10-29 19:33 ` Mike Christie
2003-10-30 23:42 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-30 13:34 ` jd
2003-11-11 11:56 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-11-11 17:36 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-19 12:40 ` Krishna Murthy
2003-11-19 12:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-11-19 13:38 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-11 17:40 ` James Bottomley
2003-11-06 9:42 ` Sachin Mhatre (smhatre)
2003-11-06 10:09 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-07 8:55 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-07 9:30 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-10 17:43 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-06 11:10 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-11-06 11:14 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-13 14:30 ` Sachin Mhatre (smhatre)
2003-11-13 14:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-11-19 13:04 ` Sachin Mhatre (smhatre)
2003-11-19 13:10 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-19 14:48 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-11-19 14:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-11-19 15:19 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-11-19 15:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-01 12:10 ` Krishna Murthy
2003-12-01 15:22 ` James Bottomley
2003-12-04 12:30 ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-05 15:33 ` James Bottomley
2003-12-05 17:03 ` Brian King
2003-12-08 15:06 ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-08 15:46 ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-10 15:01 ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-10 16:50 ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-11 14:48 ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-01 15:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-02 5:52 ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-02 16:59 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-19 17:17 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-20 13:32 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-11-20 13:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-11-20 14:53 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-11-21 16:42 ` Clay Haapala
2003-11-21 17:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-11-21 18:18 ` Clay Haapala
2003-11-26 13:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-11-24 6:09 ` Surekha.PC
2003-11-24 7:48 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-24 20:45 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-26 13:45 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-12-11 12:31 ` Naveen Burmi
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