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From: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
Cc: Naveen Burmi <naveenb@cisco.com>,
	hch@infradead.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: Request for review of Linux iSCSI driver version 4.0.0.1
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:57:15 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0312021422450.26104@serv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10312011925380.17836-100000@master.linux-ide.org>

Hi,

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Andre Hedrick wrote:

> If a "memcpy" is held and the original content changes with the top level
> caller not marking the request dirty, BOOM you just commited crap to
> platter.

This is irrelevant for this discussion, it's the responsibility of the
caller to ensure data integrity, when it's modifying the data while it's
written. The iSCSI driver is only responsible for the checksum generation.

> If you are not zero-copy to the network stack, you will never catch the
> changes between calculation of the CRC32C and pumping to the wire.
>
> iSCSI(MC)
>
> BLOCK->SCSI->iSCSI->MEMCPY->CRC32C->TCP->WIRE
>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>                               BOOM memory buffers change

If the driver uses a private buffer, there is nobody who can change it
(otherwise it's simply a bug).

> iSCSI(MC) passes CRC32C
>
> iSCSI(ZC) fails CRC32C, and retries the failed PDU.
>
> It should be clear that any TARGET, INITIATOR, or PAIR doing iSCSI(MC)
> will roast your data.
>
> Now iSCSI(ZC) requires ERL >= 1 w/ Sync-and-Steering.

Wrong, the iSCSI standard allows to escalate the error handling to the
SCSI layer. It's a different problem whether our SCSI layer can deal with
it or not.
There are multiple valid ways to recover from a digest error, there is not
just one true way as you suggest.

> Real iSCSI does ERL >= 2, but then again > 2 means new async-connections.

ERL0 is also "real iSCSI".

bye, Roman

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-02 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-01 12:30 Request for review of Linux iSCSI driver version 4.0.0.1 Naveen Burmi
2003-12-01 14:08 ` Naveen Burmi
2003-12-01 18:48   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-01 19:23   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-01 16:20 ` Roman Zippel
2003-12-01 17:19   ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-01 20:06     ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-01 20:31       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-01 20:58         ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-02  3:46   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-02 12:02     ` Naveen Burmi
2003-12-02 13:57     ` Roman Zippel [this message]
2003-12-02 11:56   ` Naveen Burmi
2003-12-02 14:11     ` Roman Zippel
2003-12-02 16:37     ` James Bottomley
2003-12-02 17:42       ` Mike Anderson
2003-12-02 23:55         ` James Bottomley
2003-12-02 23:41       ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-03 14:06       ` Naveen Burmi
2003-12-03 15:09         ` James Bottomley
2003-12-03 17:03           ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-03 17:32             ` James Bottomley
2003-12-03 17:54             ` Mike Anderson
2003-12-03 20:31               ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-03 21:14                 ` James Bottomley
2003-12-03 21:53                   ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-03 22:57                 ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-03 20:45               ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-03 21:19                 ` James Bottomley
2003-12-11 11:21                   ` Naveen Burmi
2003-12-03 22:15                 ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-03 22:32                   ` Clay Haapala
2003-12-03 23:24                 ` Mike Anderson
2003-12-06 19:37       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-07  0:37         ` Roman Zippel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-11 15:47 N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-12 12:48 ` Request " Matthew Wilcox
2003-12-12 15:29   ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-13  2:46   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-12-11  0:12 Pat LaVarre
2003-11-21 11:40 Shashi Kiran T.R
2003-11-21 17:56 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-10-23 12:04 Krishna Murthy
2003-10-27 15:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-10-29 13:23   ` Surekha.PC
2003-10-29 13:45     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-10-29 17:28       ` Mike Christie
2003-10-29 18:45         ` Clay Haapala
2003-10-29 19:01           ` Mike Christie
2003-10-29 19:17             ` Clay Haapala
2003-10-29 19:33               ` Mike Christie
2003-10-30 23:42                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-30 13:34         ` jd
2003-11-11 11:56       ` Naveen Burmi
2003-11-11 17:36         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-19 12:40           ` Krishna Murthy
2003-11-19 12:49             ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-11-19 13:38             ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-11 17:40         ` James Bottomley
2003-11-06  9:42   ` Sachin Mhatre (smhatre)
2003-11-06 10:09     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-07  8:55       ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-07  9:30         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-10 17:43         ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-06 11:10     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-11-06 11:14       ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-13 14:30   ` Sachin Mhatre (smhatre)
2003-11-13 14:54     ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-11-19 13:04   ` Sachin Mhatre (smhatre)
2003-11-19 13:10     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-19 14:48   ` Naveen Burmi
2003-11-19 14:48     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-11-19 15:19       ` Naveen Burmi
2003-11-19 15:20         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-01 12:10       ` Krishna Murthy
2003-12-01 15:22         ` James Bottomley
2003-12-04 12:30           ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-05 15:33             ` James Bottomley
2003-12-05 17:03               ` Brian King
2003-12-08 15:06               ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-08 15:46                 ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-10 15:01                   ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-10 16:50                     ` Scott M. Ferris
2003-12-11 14:48               ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-01 15:27         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-02  5:52           ` N.C.Krishna Murthy
2003-12-02 16:59             ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-19 17:17     ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-20 13:32       ` Naveen Burmi
2003-11-20 13:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-11-20 14:53           ` Naveen Burmi
2003-11-21 16:42   ` Clay Haapala
2003-11-21 17:32     ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-11-21 18:18       ` Clay Haapala
2003-11-26 13:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-11-24  6:09   ` Surekha.PC
2003-11-24  7:48     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-11-24 20:45       ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-26 13:45         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2003-12-11 12:31       ` Naveen Burmi

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