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From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: "Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Nilay Shroff <nilay@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: avoid to send scsi command with ->queue_limits lock held
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 10:30:10 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1231beed-7c85-4c72-970c-a0f9d155f99d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z3srsii5EhZmnU9D@fedora>

On 1/6/25 10:02 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2025 at 04:17:47PM +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>> On 12/31/24 13:22, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> Block request queue is often frozen before acquiring the queue
>>> ->limits_lock.
>>
>> "often" is rather vague. What cases are we talking about here beside the block
>> layer sysfs ->store() operations ? Fixing these is easy and does not need this
>> change.
> 
> Is it really necessary to make freeze lock to depend on ->limits_lock?

Yes, because you do not want to have requests in-flight when applying new limits.

> 
> sd_revalidate_disk() is really one special case, so I think this patch
> does correct thing.
> 
>>
>> Furthermore, this change almost feels like a layering violation as it replicates
>> most of the queue limits structure inside sd. This introducing a strong
>> dependency to the block layer internals which we should avoid.
> 
> No.
> 
> block layer is common library, which is storage abstraction, so it is
> pretty reasonable for storage drivers to depend block layer. You can
> look at it from another way, if any related queue limits change, the
> current storage driver need corresponding change too, with or without
> this change.

Of course block device driver layers like SCSI depend on the block layer. But
that dependency is at a high level API/function level. My concern is that your
patch mimics too much the block layer implementation internals instead of
relying on a high level API like we do now.

-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-06  1:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-31  4:22 [PATCH] scsi: avoid to send scsi command with ->queue_limits lock held Ming Lei
2025-01-01 11:16 ` Nilay Shroff
2025-01-02  1:09   ` Ming Lei
2025-01-04  7:17 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-01-04 11:28   ` Nilay Shroff
2025-01-04 12:50     ` Damien Le Moal
2025-01-06  1:02   ` Ming Lei
2025-01-06  1:30     ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2025-01-06  3:01       ` Ming Lei

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