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From: Bean Huo <beanhuo@iokpp.de>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>
Cc: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	avri.altman@sandisk.com, Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	 can.guo@oss.qualcomm.com, Bean Huo <beanhuo@micron.com>,
	 linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: ufs: core: Fix link error when CONFIG_RPMB=m
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2025 15:59:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84a72d8f1a84d438fc73c35aef3966d74c027a80.camel@iokpp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dbe51014-bb52-4ffa-976f-f3823e7c391e@app.fastmail.com>

On Tue, 2025-12-02 at 14:25 +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2025, at 14:17, Jens Wiklander wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2025 at 1:17 PM Bean Huo <beanhuo@iokpp.de> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2025-12-02 at 12:41 +0100, Jens Wiklander wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Would you prefer IS_REACHABLE for theoretical flexibility, or is
> > > > > > > IS_BUILTIN
> > > > > > > acceptable given the typical UFS built-in configuration?
> > > > > > 
> 
> I did introduce IS_REACHABLE() a long time ago, but I consider it
> the wrong approach for almost every possible case, as it only
> works around link failures by introducing very unexpected runtime
> behavior.

thanks for your info.

> 
> > > > > > Unless someone comes up with a better solution, I propose to apply
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > patch before sending a pull request to Linus and look into making
> > > > > > RPMB
> > > > > > tristate again at a later time:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/misc/Kconfig b/drivers/misc/Kconfig
> > > > > > index 9d1de68dee27..e0b7f8fb6ecb 100644
> > > > > > --- a/drivers/misc/Kconfig
> > > > > > +++ b/drivers/misc/Kconfig
> > > > > > @@ -105,7 +105,7 @@ config PHANTOM
> > > > > >           say N here.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   config RPMB
> > > > > > -       tristate "RPMB partition interface"
> > > > > > +       bool "RPMB partition interface"
> > > > > >         depends on MMC || SCSI_UFSHCD
> > > > > >         help
> > > > > >           Unified RPMB unit interface for RPMB capable devices such
> > > > > > as
> 
> This equally does not seem appropriate, as others have commented.
> 

the qeustions do we need to make RPMB as a module?

> > > > > 
> > > > > we wanted to make sure you're aware of this proposed change. The
> > > > > reasoning
> > > > > is:
> > > > > 1, avoids module dependency complexity between UFS and RPMB
> > > > > 2, matches typical usage where both are built-in
> > > > > 
> > > > > Let me know if there are concerns with making RPMB bool instead of
> > > > > tristate.
> > > > 
> > > > We use "depends on RPMB || !RPMB" in drivers/tee/optee/Kconfig and
> > > > drivers/mmc/core/Kconfig to handle this problem. Could the same
> > > > pattern be used here?
> 
> This does sound like the right idea.
> 
> > > The pattern/dependecy used in MMC and OP-TEE doesn't apply UFS due to
> > > different
> > > dependency structures:
> > > 
> > > MMC: The core MMC config doesn't depend on RPMB. Only MMC_BLOCK (a sub-
> > > layer)
> > > has "depends on RPMB || !RPMB", avoiding the cycle.
> > > 
> > > OP-TEE: RPMB doesn't depend on OPTEE, so "depends on RPMB || !RPMB" in
> > > OPTEE
> > > creates no cycle.
> > > 
> > > and for UFS:
> > > 
> > > UFS: This creates a direct circular dependency:
> > > 
> > > drivers/misc/Kconfig: RPMB depends on SCSI_UFSHCD
> > > drivers/ufs/Kconfig: SCSI_UFSHCD depends on RPMB
> > > 
> > > This is why Bart's suggestion to make RPMB bool instead of tristate may be
> > > the
> > > cleaner solution.
> > > 
> > 
> > What will that mean for OPTEE and MMC? That they can't be modules if
> > RPMB is enabled? Are we moving the problem somewhere else?
> 
> My first impression is that the 'depends on MMC || SCSI_UFSHCD' is
> the problem here, and I would suggest simply dropping that dependency.
> 

> Any module that links against exported RPMB symbols should have
> the 'depends on RPMB || !RPMB' line to enable linking correctly.
> The RPMB implementation in drivers/misc on the other hand has no
> link-time dependency I can see, and enabling it without one of
> the other symbols simply means that there is a module that does
> nothing.

I have added this option in my previous email, can you add which one you prefer.

Kind regards,
Bean

> 
>      Arnd


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-02 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-30 15:15 [PATCH] scsi: ufs: core: Fix link error when CONFIG_RPMB=m Bean Huo
2025-12-01 17:25 ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-12-01 22:42   ` Bean Huo
2025-12-02  0:53     ` Bart Van Assche
2025-12-02  9:12       ` Bean Huo
2025-12-02 11:41         ` Jens Wiklander
2025-12-02 12:17           ` Bean Huo
2025-12-02 13:17             ` Jens Wiklander
2025-12-02 13:25               ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-12-02 14:59                 ` Bean Huo [this message]
2025-12-02 15:47                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-12-02 15:57                     ` Bean Huo
2025-12-02 14:17               ` Bean Huo
2025-12-03  6:15 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-03 14:39   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-12-03 16:23     ` Bean Huo
2025-12-03 20:31       ` Arnd Bergmann

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