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From: "John Ericson" <mail@johnericson.me>
To: "Günther Noack" <gnoack3000@gmail.com>
Cc: "David Laight" <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	"Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuniyu@google.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Cong Wang" <cwang@multikernel.io>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"David Rheinsberg" <david@readahead.eu>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Sergei Zimmerman" <sergei@zimmerman.foo>,
	"network dev" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
	"Günther Noack" <gnoack@google.com>,
	"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: unix_stream_connect and socket address resolution
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2026 12:02:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4adebd8-181a-47b7-b82b-b6d9baa6b203@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260722.bfca37efd700@gnoack.org>

Thanks Günther!

This example makes sense to me. The behavior still feels a little odd to
me, but I can understand the practical benefit of what you describe, and
also why changing it would definitely cause breakage.

I have one addendum to ask then which is: what if before the loop we
pre-resolve the parent directory as a concrete `struct path`, and then
on each iteration of the loop resolve only the final path component to
the socket itself? (That is a single-component lookup relative to the
pre-resolved parent, to be clear.)

Per your example, a legitimate server restart recreates the socket inode
in the same directory, so this still picks up the new socket and
reconnects, while avoiding the effect where a concurrent
ancestor-directory rename causes a wildly different socket to be
resolved. Hopefully this preserves the intended use-case.

Note that this does mean recreating the parent directory itself at the
same path would no longer be followed, and a rename/unlink of the pinned
parent would cause the lookup to fail rather than resolve elsewhere.
That seems like the intended, safer direction to me, but flagging it as
a deliberate semantic change rather than an accident.

If this sounds like an acceptable middle-ground to everyone, I'd be happy to implement it.

Cheers,

John

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-22 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-03  7:39 [RFC PATCH 0/3] coredump, net: fix layer violation with direct connection John Ericson
2026-07-03  7:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] af_unix: factor out unix_lookup_bsd_path() John Ericson
2026-07-03  7:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] af_unix: factor out kernel_unix_connect_direct() John Ericson
2026-07-18 19:55   ` unix_stream_connect and socket address resolution John Ericson
2026-07-18 20:58     ` David Laight
2026-07-19 15:37       ` John Ericson
2026-07-21 20:37         ` John Ericson
2026-07-22  7:25           ` Günther Noack
2026-07-22 16:02             ` John Ericson [this message]
2026-07-22 10:05           ` David Laight
2026-07-03  7:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] coredump, net: remove `SOCK_COREDUMP` John Ericson
2026-07-03  8:11   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-03  9:08     ` John Ericson
2026-07-03  9:31       ` Christian Brauner

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