* [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
@ 2026-05-06 6:24 Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-05-06 7:05 ` Takashi Iwai
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Thorsten Leemhuis @ 2026-05-06 6:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jaroslav Kysela, Takashi Iwai
Cc: Linux kernel regressions list, Linux Sound System, LKML, stoa,
Harin Lee
Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461
To quote:
> Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC
>
> Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1, 7.0.2, and
> 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or 6.12.x does
> not present the issue.
>
> Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both Gentoo and
> Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are connected,
> all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of whether settings
> are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no speaker
> output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot, speakers work;
> reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to headphones.
>
> Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig on 6.18.24
> .config; Arch standard release
> 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached
> 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached
> pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and Arch Linux
>
> Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G
> Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro
> RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4 @3200mHz
> Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC
> Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
>
>
> Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers or head-
> phones while both are plugged-in to sound card.
>
> Workaround: none known.
See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is affected as
well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report makes it to
the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded this.
Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this
happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this resolved.
Ciao, Thorsten
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* Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
2026-05-06 6:24 [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x Thorsten Leemhuis
@ 2026-05-06 7:05 ` Takashi Iwai
2026-05-06 22:06 ` Harin Lee
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2026-05-06 7:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thorsten Leemhuis
Cc: Jaroslav Kysela, Takashi Iwai, Linux kernel regressions list,
Linux Sound System, LKML, stoa, Harin Lee
On Wed, 06 May 2026 08:24:36 +0200,
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>
> Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla:
>
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461
>
> To quote:
>
> > Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC
> >
> > Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> > discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1, 7.0.2, and
> > 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or 6.12.x does
> > not present the issue.
> >
> > Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both Gentoo and
> > Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are connected,
> > all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of whether settings
> > are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no speaker
> > output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot, speakers work;
> > reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to headphones.
> >
> > Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig on 6.18.24
> > .config; Arch standard release
> > 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached
> > 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached
> > pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> >
> > Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G
> > Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro
> > RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4 @3200mHz
> > Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC
> > Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> >
> >
> > Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers or head-
> > phones while both are plugged-in to sound card.
> >
> > Workaround: none known.
>
> See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is affected as
> well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report makes it to
> the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded this.
>
> Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this
> happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this resolved.
As there have been many significant changes in ctxfi since 6.18, it's
hard to tell what broke. Please go git bisect.
thanks,
Takashi
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* Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
2026-05-06 7:05 ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2026-05-06 22:06 ` Harin Lee
2026-05-07 6:30 ` Takashi Iwai
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Harin Lee @ 2026-05-06 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Takashi Iwai, Thorsten Leemhuis
Cc: Jaroslav Kysela, Takashi Iwai, Linux kernel regressions list,
Linux Sound System, LKML, stoa
On 5/6/26 4:05 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Wed, 06 May 2026 08:24:36 +0200,
> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>
>> Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461
>>
>> To quote:
>>
>>> Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC
>>>
>>> Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
>>> discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1, 7.0.2, and
>>> 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or 6.12.x does
>>> not present the issue.
>>>
>>> Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both Gentoo and
>>> Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are connected,
>>> all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of whether settings
>>> are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no speaker
>>> output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot, speakers work;
>>> reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to headphones.
>>>
>>> Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig on 6.18.24
>>> .config; Arch standard release
>>> 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached
>>> 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached
>>> pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
>>> alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
>>> 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and Arch Linux
>>>
>>> Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G
>>> Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro
>>> RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4 @3200mHz
>>> Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC
>>> Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
>>>
>>>
>>> Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers or head-
>>> phones while both are plugged-in to sound card.
>>>
>>> Workaround: none known.
>>
>> See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is affected as
>> well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report makes it to
>> the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded this.
>>
>> Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this
>> happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this resolved.
>
> As there have been many significant changes in ctxfi since 6.18, it's
> hard to tell what broke. Please go git bisect.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
>
Creative Sound Blaster Z-series uses the snd_hda_codec_ca0132 driver,
not snd_ctxfi. The dmesg logs in the bugzilla shows only ca0132
entries.
Thanks,
Harin Lee
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* Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
2026-05-06 22:06 ` Harin Lee
@ 2026-05-07 6:30 ` Takashi Iwai
2026-05-07 12:47 ` Dutch Ingraham
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2026-05-07 6:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Harin Lee
Cc: Takashi Iwai, Thorsten Leemhuis, Jaroslav Kysela, Takashi Iwai,
Linux kernel regressions list, Linux Sound System, LKML, stoa
On Thu, 07 May 2026 00:06:11 +0200,
Harin Lee wrote:
>
> On 5/6/26 4:05 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > On Wed, 06 May 2026 08:24:36 +0200,
> > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla:
> >>
> >> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461
> >>
> >> To quote:
> >>
> >>> Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC
> >>>
> >>> Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> >>> discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1, 7.0.2, and
> >>> 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or 6.12.x does
> >>> not present the issue.
> >>>
> >>> Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both Gentoo and
> >>> Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are connected,
> >>> all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of whether settings
> >>> are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no speaker
> >>> output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot, speakers work;
> >>> reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to headphones.
> >>>
> >>> Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig on 6.18.24
> >>> .config; Arch standard release
> >>> 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached
> >>> 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached
> >>> pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> >>> alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> >>> 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> >>>
> >>> Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G
> >>> Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro
> >>> RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4 @3200mHz
> >>> Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC
> >>> Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers or head-
> >>> phones while both are plugged-in to sound card.
> >>>
> >>> Workaround: none known.
> >>
> >> See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is affected as
> >> well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report makes it to
> >> the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded this.
> >>
> >> Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this
> >> happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this resolved.
> >
> > As there have been many significant changes in ctxfi since 6.18, it's
> > hard to tell what broke. Please go git bisect.
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Takashi
> >
>
> Creative Sound Blaster Z-series uses the snd_hda_codec_ca0132 driver,
> not snd_ctxfi. The dmesg logs in the bugzilla shows only ca0132
> entries.
Ah, sorry, then it's easier. The only major change is the
commit 778031e1658d206a52bf9491c91ae5d4f4a2509d
ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default from headphone pin verb
Try to revert this one.
thanks,
Takashi
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* Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
2026-05-07 6:30 ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2026-05-07 12:47 ` Dutch Ingraham
2026-05-07 13:24 ` Takashi Iwai
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Dutch Ingraham @ 2026-05-07 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Takashi Iwai
Cc: Harin Lee, Takashi Iwai, Thorsten Leemhuis, Jaroslav Kysela,
Takashi Iwai, Linux kernel regressions list, Linux Sound System,
LKML
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2026 at 1:30 AM
> From: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>
> To: "Harin Lee" <me@harin.net>
> Cc: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>, "Thorsten Leemhuis" <regressions@leemhuis.info>, "Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>, "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>, "Linux kernel regressions list" <regressions@lists.linux.dev>, "Linux Sound System" <linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>, "LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, stoa@gmx.us
> Subject: Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
>
> On Thu, 07 May 2026 00:06:11 +0200,
> Harin Lee wrote:
> >
> > On 5/6/26 4:05 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > On Wed, 06 May 2026 08:24:36 +0200,
> > > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla:
> > >>
> > >> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461
> > >>
> > >> To quote:
> > >>
> > >>> Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC
> > >>>
> > >>> Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> > >>> discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1, 7.0.2, and
> > >>> 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or 6.12.x does
> > >>> not present the issue.
> > >>>
> > >>> Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both Gentoo and
> > >>> Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are connected,
> > >>> all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of whether settings
> > >>> are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no speaker
> > >>> output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot, speakers work;
> > >>> reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to headphones.
> > >>>
> > >>> Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig on 6.18.24
> > >>> .config; Arch standard release
> > >>> 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached
> > >>> 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached
> > >>> pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > >>> alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > >>> 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > >>>
> > >>> Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G
> > >>> Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro
> > >>> RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4 @3200mHz
> > >>> Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC
> > >>> Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers or head-
> > >>> phones while both are plugged-in to sound card.
> > >>>
> > >>> Workaround: none known.
> > >>
> > >> See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is affected as
> > >> well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report makes it to
> > >> the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded this.
> > >>
> > >> Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this
> > >> happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this resolved.
> > >
> > > As there have been many significant changes in ctxfi since 6.18, it's
> > > hard to tell what broke. Please go git bisect.
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Takashi
> > >
> >
> > Creative Sound Blaster Z-series uses the snd_hda_codec_ca0132 driver,
> > not snd_ctxfi. The dmesg logs in the bugzilla shows only ca0132
> > entries.
>
> Ah, sorry, then it's easier. The only major change is the
> commit 778031e1658d206a52bf9491c91ae5d4f4a2509d
> ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default from headphone pin verb
>
> Try to revert this one.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
>
I can confirm this seems like a good candidate. I built and tested 6.19.14
and 7.0. On 6.19.14, speakers work as expected; on 7.0, speakers are not
working as expected and the offending patch is included in the 7.0 patchset.
Thank you all for your work on this issue.
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* Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
2026-05-07 12:47 ` Dutch Ingraham
@ 2026-05-07 13:24 ` Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <CAFTm+6Bj_dWdSifUoS7hZ3kfVambXK_=7jyGuHp33RZoSEGVUA@mail.gmail.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2026-05-07 13:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt DeVillier
Cc: Takashi Iwai, Dutch Ingraham, Harin Lee, Thorsten Leemhuis,
Jaroslav Kysela, Takashi Iwai, Linux kernel regressions list,
Linux Sound System, LKML
On Thu, 07 May 2026 14:47:03 +0200,
Dutch Ingraham wrote:
>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2026 at 1:30 AM
> > From: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>
> > To: "Harin Lee" <me@harin.net>
> > Cc: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>, "Thorsten Leemhuis" <regressions@leemhuis.info>, "Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>, "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>, "Linux kernel regressions list" <regressions@lists.linux.dev>, "Linux Sound System" <linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>, "LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, stoa@gmx.us
> > Subject: Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
> >
> > On Thu, 07 May 2026 00:06:11 +0200,
> > Harin Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > On 5/6/26 4:05 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 06 May 2026 08:24:36 +0200,
> > > > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla:
> > > >>
> > > >> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461
> > > >>
> > > >> To quote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> > > >>> discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1, 7.0.2, and
> > > >>> 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or 6.12.x does
> > > >>> not present the issue.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both Gentoo and
> > > >>> Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are connected,
> > > >>> all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of whether settings
> > > >>> are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no speaker
> > > >>> output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot, speakers work;
> > > >>> reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to headphones.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig on 6.18.24
> > > >>> .config; Arch standard release
> > > >>> 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached
> > > >>> 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached
> > > >>> pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > >>> alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > >>> 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G
> > > >>> Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro
> > > >>> RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4 @3200mHz
> > > >>> Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC
> > > >>> Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers or head-
> > > >>> phones while both are plugged-in to sound card.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Workaround: none known.
> > > >>
> > > >> See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is affected as
> > > >> well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report makes it to
> > > >> the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded this.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this
> > > >> happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this resolved.
> > > >
> > > > As there have been many significant changes in ctxfi since 6.18, it's
> > > > hard to tell what broke. Please go git bisect.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Takashi
> > > >
> > >
> > > Creative Sound Blaster Z-series uses the snd_hda_codec_ca0132 driver,
> > > not snd_ctxfi. The dmesg logs in the bugzilla shows only ca0132
> > > entries.
> >
> > Ah, sorry, then it's easier. The only major change is the
> > commit 778031e1658d206a52bf9491c91ae5d4f4a2509d
> > ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default from headphone pin verb
> >
> > Try to revert this one.
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Takashi
> >
>
> I can confirm this seems like a good candidate. I built and tested 6.19.14
> and 7.0. On 6.19.14, speakers work as expected; on 7.0, speakers are not
> working as expected and the offending patch is included in the 7.0 patchset.
>
> Thank you all for your work on this issue.
OK, then let's put Matt to the party.
Matt, could you help for debugging the regression?
Takashi
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* Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
[not found] ` <CAFTm+6Dtsc8z7s4Gj+6A9zGpXyj93tQEbkzQLu13S36SmhB8Zw@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2026-05-07 15:06 ` Matt DeVillier
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Matt DeVillier @ 2026-05-07 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linux Sound System
On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 8:24 AM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 May 2026 14:47:03 +0200,
> Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> >
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2026 at 1:30 AM
> > > From: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>
> > > To: "Harin Lee" <me@harin.net>
> > > Cc: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>, "Thorsten Leemhuis" <regressions@leemhuis.info>, "Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>, "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>, "Linux kernel regressions list" <regressions@lists.linux.dev>, "Linux Sound System" <linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>, "LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, stoa@gmx.us
> > > Subject: Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
> > >
> > > On Thu, 07 May 2026 00:06:11 +0200,
> > > Harin Lee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 5/6/26 4:05 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 06 May 2026 08:24:36 +0200,
> > > > > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461
> > > > >>
> > > > >> To quote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> > > > >>> discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1, 7.0.2, and
> > > > >>> 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or 6.12.x does
> > > > >>> not present the issue.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both Gentoo and
> > > > >>> Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are connected,
> > > > >>> all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of whether settings
> > > > >>> are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no speaker
> > > > >>> output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot, speakers work;
> > > > >>> reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to headphones.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig on 6.18.24
> > > > >>> .config; Arch standard release
> > > > >>> 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached
> > > > >>> 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached
> > > > >>> pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > > >>> alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > > >>> 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G
> > > > >>> Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro
> > > > >>> RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4 @3200mHz
> > > > >>> Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC
> > > > >>> Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers or head-
> > > > >>> phones while both are plugged-in to sound card.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Workaround: none known.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is affected as
> > > > >> well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report makes it to
> > > > >> the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded this.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this
> > > > >> happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this resolved.
> > > > >
> > > > > As there have been many significant changes in ctxfi since 6.18, it's
> > > > > hard to tell what broke. Please go git bisect.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Takashi
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Creative Sound Blaster Z-series uses the snd_hda_codec_ca0132 driver,
> > > > not snd_ctxfi. The dmesg logs in the bugzilla shows only ca0132
> > > > entries.
> > >
> > > Ah, sorry, then it's easier. The only major change is the
> > > commit 778031e1658d206a52bf9491c91ae5d4f4a2509d
> > > ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default from headphone pin verb
> > >
> > > Try to revert this one.
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Takashi
> > >
> >
> > I can confirm this seems like a good candidate. I built and tested 6.19.14
> > and 7.0. On 6.19.14, speakers work as expected; on 7.0, speakers are not
> > working as expected and the offending patch is included in the 7.0 patchset.
> >
> > Thank you all for your work on this issue.
>
> OK, then let's put Matt to the party.
> Matt, could you help for debugging the regression?
>
>
> Takashi
I can confirm the regression here on my 2013 Chromebook Pixel w/CA0132.
Looking more closely, the issue is that tVNID_HP_ASEL and VNID_HP_SEL are
mutually exclusive selection sources in ca0132_select_out() /
ca0132_alt_select_out(),
and auto-detect always "wins." So, enabling auto-detect effectively
disabled user
override.
While reverting would fix this problem, it would reintroduce the
problem of jack-detect being
ignored completely. A better solution would be to default to
auto-detect, but allow manual selection
to override. Here's a quick patch I whipped up that should resolve the
issue (untested though):
---
From: Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 09:58:41 -0500
Subject: [PATCH] ALSA: hda/ca0132: Disable auto-detect on manual output select
Commit 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker
auto-detect default from headphone pin verb") enables HP/Speaker
auto-detect by default when the headphone pin supports presence detect.
With auto-detect enabled, ca0132_select_out() and ca0132_alt_select_out()
choose the output from jack presence instead of the manual HP/Speaker
selection. This means selecting speaker output while headphones are
plugged in updates the control state, but audio still routes to the
headphones.
Treat an explicit manual output selection as a request to leave
auto-detect mode. Clear the HP/Speaker auto-detect switch before applying
the manual selection, and notify userspace so the auto-detect control
state is updated in mixers. Do this for both the normal HP/Speaker
Playback Switch and the alternate Output Select control used by desktop
cards.
This keeps auto-detect enabled by default for devices with jack presence
detection, while preserving the expected behavior that a manual output
choice takes effect immediately.
Fixes: 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect
default from headphone pin verb")
Signed-off-by: Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
---
sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c | 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
diff --git a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
index ad533b04ab29..be565ffaade0 100644
--- a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
+++ b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
@@ -5498,6 +5498,30 @@ static int zxr_headphone_gain_set(struct
hda_codec *codec, long val)
return 0;
}
+/*
+ * Manual output selection (HP/Speaker Playback Switch or alt Output Select)
+ * is meaningful only when HP/Speaker auto-detect is disabled, since the
+ * select_out path always prefers jack presence when auto-detect is on. When
+ * the user explicitly chooses an output, turn auto-detect off so the manual
+ * choice actually takes effect, and notify userspace so the auto-detect
+ * control reflects the new state.
+ */
+static void ca0132_disable_hp_auto_detect(struct hda_codec *codec)
+{
+ struct ca0132_spec *spec = codec->spec;
+ struct snd_kcontrol *kctl;
+
+ if (!spec->vnode_lswitch[VNID_HP_ASEL - VNODE_START_NID])
+ return;
+
+ spec->vnode_lswitch[VNID_HP_ASEL - VNODE_START_NID] = 0;
+ kctl = snd_hda_find_mixer_ctl(codec,
+ "HP/Speaker Auto Detect Playback Switch");
+ if (kctl)
+ snd_ctl_notify(codec->card, SNDRV_CTL_EVENT_MASK_VALUE,
+ &kctl->id);
+}
+
static int ca0132_vnode_switch_set(struct snd_kcontrol *kcontrol,
struct snd_ctl_elem_value *ucontrol)
{
@@ -5510,14 +5534,11 @@ static int ca0132_vnode_switch_set(struct
snd_kcontrol *kcontrol,
int auto_jack;
if (nid == VNID_HP_SEL) {
- auto_jack =
- spec->vnode_lswitch[VNID_HP_ASEL - VNODE_START_NID];
- if (!auto_jack) {
- if (ca0132_use_alt_functions(spec))
- ca0132_alt_select_out(codec);
- else
- ca0132_select_out(codec);
- }
+ ca0132_disable_hp_auto_detect(codec);
+ if (ca0132_use_alt_functions(spec))
+ ca0132_alt_select_out(codec);
+ else
+ ca0132_select_out(codec);
return 1;
}
@@ -5978,7 +5999,6 @@ static int ca0132_alt_output_select_put(struct
snd_kcontrol *kcontrol,
struct ca0132_spec *spec = codec->spec;
int sel = ucontrol->value.enumerated.item[0];
unsigned int items = NUM_OF_OUTPUTS;
- unsigned int auto_jack;
if (sel >= items)
return 0;
@@ -5988,10 +6008,8 @@ static int ca0132_alt_output_select_put(struct
snd_kcontrol *kcontrol,
spec->out_enum_val = sel;
- auto_jack = spec->vnode_lswitch[VNID_HP_ASEL - VNODE_START_NID];
-
- if (!auto_jack)
- ca0132_alt_select_out(codec);
+ ca0132_disable_hp_auto_detect(codec);
+ ca0132_alt_select_out(codec);
return 1;
}
--
2.51.0
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* Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
[not found] ` <CAFTm+6Bj_dWdSifUoS7hZ3kfVambXK_=7jyGuHp33RZoSEGVUA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAFTm+6Dtsc8z7s4Gj+6A9zGpXyj93tQEbkzQLu13S36SmhB8Zw@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2026-05-07 15:07 ` Takashi Iwai
2026-05-07 15:12 ` Matt DeVillier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2026-05-07 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt DeVillier
Cc: Takashi Iwai, Dutch Ingraham, Harin Lee, Thorsten Leemhuis,
Jaroslav Kysela, Takashi Iwai, Linux kernel regressions list,
Linux Sound System, LKML
On Thu, 07 May 2026 17:02:14 +0200,
Matt DeVillier wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 8:24 AM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 May 2026 14:47:03 +0200,
> Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> >
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2026 at 1:30 AM
> > > From: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>
> > > To: "Harin Lee" <me@harin.net>
> > > Cc: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>, "Thorsten Leemhuis" <
> regressions@leemhuis.info>, "Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>, "Takashi
> Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>, "Linux kernel regressions list" <
> regressions@lists.linux.dev>, "Linux Sound System" <
> linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>, "LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
> stoa@gmx.us
> > > Subject: Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones
> connected on >=7.0.x
> > >
> > > On Thu, 07 May 2026 00:06:11 +0200,
> > > Harin Lee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 5/6/26 4:05 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 06 May 2026 08:24:36 +0200,
> > > > > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461
> > > > >>
> > > > >> To quote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound
> Blaster Z SE
> > > > >>> discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1,
> 7.0.2, and
> > > > >>> 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or
> 6.12.x does
> > > > >>> not present the issue.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both
> Gentoo and
> > > > >>> Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are
> connected,
> > > > >>> all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of
> whether settings
> > > > >>> are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no
> speaker
> > > > >>> output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot,
> speakers work;
> > > > >>> reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to
> headphones.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig
> on 6.18.24
> > > > >>> .config; Arch standard release
> > > > >>> 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached
> > > > >>> 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached
> > > > >>> pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > > >>> alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > > >>> 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and
> Arch Linux
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G
> > > > >>> Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro
> > > > >>> RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4
> @3200mHz
> > > > >>> Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC
> > > > >>> Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers
> or head-
> > > > >>> phones while both are plugged-in to sound card.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Workaround: none known.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is
> affected as
> > > > >> well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report
> makes it to
> > > > >> the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded
> this.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this
> > > > >> happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this
> resolved.
> > > > >
> > > > > As there have been many significant changes in ctxfi since 6.18,
> it's
> > > > > hard to tell what broke. Please go git bisect.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Takashi
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Creative Sound Blaster Z-series uses the snd_hda_codec_ca0132
> driver,
> > > > not snd_ctxfi. The dmesg logs in the bugzilla shows only ca0132
> > > > entries.
> > >
> > > Ah, sorry, then it's easier. The only major change is the
> > > commit 778031e1658d206a52bf9491c91ae5d4f4a2509d
> > > ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default from
> headphone pin verb
> > >
> > > Try to revert this one.
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Takashi
> > >
> >
> > I can confirm this seems like a good candidate. I built and tested
> 6.19.14
> > and 7.0. On 6.19.14, speakers work as expected; on 7.0, speakers are
> not
> > working as expected and the offending patch is included in the 7.0
> patchset.
> >
> > Thank you all for your work on this issue.
>
> OK, then let's put Matt to the party.
> Matt, could you help for debugging the regression?
>
> Takashi
>
> I can confirm the regression here on my 2013 Chromebook Pixel w/CA0132.
>
> Looking more closely, the issue is that tVNID_HP_ASEL and VNID_HP_SEL are
> mutually exclusive selection sources in ca0132_select_out() /
> ca0132_alt_select_out(),
> and auto-detect always "wins." So, enabling auto-detect effectively disabled
> user
> override.
>
> While reverting would fix this problem, it would reintroduce the problem of
> jack-detect being
> ignored completely. A better solution would be to default to auto-detect, but
> allow manual selection
> to override. Here's a quick patch I whipped up that should resolve the issue
> (untested though):
> ---
> From: Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 09:58:41 -0500
> Subject: [PATCH] ALSA: hda/ca0132: Disable auto-detect on manual output
> select
>
> Commit 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker
> auto-detect default from headphone pin verb") enables HP/Speaker
> auto-detect by default when the headphone pin supports presence detect.
>
> With auto-detect enabled, ca0132_select_out() and ca0132_alt_select_out()
> choose the output from jack presence instead of the manual HP/Speaker
> selection. This means selecting speaker output while headphones are
> plugged in updates the control state, but audio still routes to the
> headphones.
>
> Treat an explicit manual output selection as a request to leave
> auto-detect mode. Clear the HP/Speaker auto-detect switch before applying
> the manual selection, and notify userspace so the auto-detect control
> state is updated in mixers. Do this for both the normal HP/Speaker
> Playback Switch and the alternate Output Select control used by desktop
> cards.
>
> This keeps auto-detect enabled by default for devices with jack presence
> detection, while preserving the expected behavior that a manual output
> choice takes effect immediately.
>
> Fixes: 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default
> from headphone pin verb")
> Signed-off-by: Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
> ---
> sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c | 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
> 1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
> index ad533b04ab29..be565ffaade0 100644
> --- a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
> +++ b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
> @@ -5498,6 +5498,30 @@ static int zxr_headphone_gain_set(struct hda_codec
> *codec, long val)
> return 0;
> }
(snip)
It looks like that the patch is malformed by your mailer.
For avoiding unneeded troubles, please fix the setup or give an
attachment, too.
thanks,
Takashi
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* Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
2026-05-07 15:07 ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2026-05-07 15:12 ` Matt DeVillier
2026-05-07 18:23 ` Dutch Ingraham
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Matt DeVillier @ 2026-05-07 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Takashi Iwai
Cc: Dutch Ingraham, Harin Lee, Thorsten Leemhuis, Jaroslav Kysela,
Takashi Iwai, Linux kernel regressions list, Linux Sound System,
LKML
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 8571 bytes --]
On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 10:07 AM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 May 2026 17:02:14 +0200,
> Matt DeVillier wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 8:24 AM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 07 May 2026 14:47:03 +0200,
> > Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2026 at 1:30 AM
> > > > From: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>
> > > > To: "Harin Lee" <me@harin.net>
> > > > Cc: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>, "Thorsten Leemhuis" <
> > regressions@leemhuis.info>, "Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>, "Takashi
> > Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>, "Linux kernel regressions list" <
> > regressions@lists.linux.dev>, "Linux Sound System" <
> > linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>, "LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
> > stoa@gmx.us
> > > > Subject: Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones
> > connected on >=7.0.x
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 07 May 2026 00:06:11 +0200,
> > > > Harin Lee wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/6/26 4:05 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 06 May 2026 08:24:36 +0200,
> > > > > > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> To quote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound
> > Blaster Z SE
> > > > > >>> discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1,
> > 7.0.2, and
> > > > > >>> 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or
> > 6.12.x does
> > > > > >>> not present the issue.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both
> > Gentoo and
> > > > > >>> Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are
> > connected,
> > > > > >>> all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of
> > whether settings
> > > > > >>> are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no
> > speaker
> > > > > >>> output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot,
> > speakers work;
> > > > > >>> reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to
> > headphones.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig
> > on 6.18.24
> > > > > >>> .config; Arch standard release
> > > > > >>> 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached
> > > > > >>> 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached
> > > > > >>> pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > > > >>> alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > > > >>> 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and
> > Arch Linux
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G
> > > > > >>> Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro
> > > > > >>> RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4
> > @3200mHz
> > > > > >>> Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC
> > > > > >>> Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers
> > or head-
> > > > > >>> phones while both are plugged-in to sound card.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Workaround: none known.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is
> > affected as
> > > > > >> well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report
> > makes it to
> > > > > >> the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded
> > this.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this
> > > > > >> happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this
> > resolved.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As there have been many significant changes in ctxfi since 6.18,
> > it's
> > > > > > hard to tell what broke. Please go git bisect.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Takashi
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Creative Sound Blaster Z-series uses the snd_hda_codec_ca0132
> > driver,
> > > > > not snd_ctxfi. The dmesg logs in the bugzilla shows only ca0132
> > > > > entries.
> > > >
> > > > Ah, sorry, then it's easier. The only major change is the
> > > > commit 778031e1658d206a52bf9491c91ae5d4f4a2509d
> > > > ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default from
> > headphone pin verb
> > > >
> > > > Try to revert this one.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Takashi
> > > >
> > >
> > > I can confirm this seems like a good candidate. I built and tested
> > 6.19.14
> > > and 7.0. On 6.19.14, speakers work as expected; on 7.0, speakers are
> > not
> > > working as expected and the offending patch is included in the 7.0
> > patchset.
> > >
> > > Thank you all for your work on this issue.
> >
> > OK, then let's put Matt to the party.
> > Matt, could you help for debugging the regression?
> >
> > Takashi
> >
> > I can confirm the regression here on my 2013 Chromebook Pixel w/CA0132.
> >
> > Looking more closely, the issue is that tVNID_HP_ASEL and VNID_HP_SEL are
> > mutually exclusive selection sources in ca0132_select_out() /
> > ca0132_alt_select_out(),
> > and auto-detect always "wins." So, enabling auto-detect effectively disabled
> > user
> > override.
> >
> > While reverting would fix this problem, it would reintroduce the problem of
> > jack-detect being
> > ignored completely. A better solution would be to default to auto-detect, but
> > allow manual selection
> > to override. Here's a quick patch I whipped up that should resolve the issue
> > (untested though):
> > ---
> > From: Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 09:58:41 -0500
> > Subject: [PATCH] ALSA: hda/ca0132: Disable auto-detect on manual output
> > select
> >
> > Commit 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker
> > auto-detect default from headphone pin verb") enables HP/Speaker
> > auto-detect by default when the headphone pin supports presence detect.
> >
> > With auto-detect enabled, ca0132_select_out() and ca0132_alt_select_out()
> > choose the output from jack presence instead of the manual HP/Speaker
> > selection. This means selecting speaker output while headphones are
> > plugged in updates the control state, but audio still routes to the
> > headphones.
> >
> > Treat an explicit manual output selection as a request to leave
> > auto-detect mode. Clear the HP/Speaker auto-detect switch before applying
> > the manual selection, and notify userspace so the auto-detect control
> > state is updated in mixers. Do this for both the normal HP/Speaker
> > Playback Switch and the alternate Output Select control used by desktop
> > cards.
> >
> > This keeps auto-detect enabled by default for devices with jack presence
> > detection, while preserving the expected behavior that a manual output
> > choice takes effect immediately.
> >
> > Fixes: 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default
> > from headphone pin verb")
> > Signed-off-by: Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c | 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
> > 1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
> > index ad533b04ab29..be565ffaade0 100644
> > --- a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
> > +++ b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
> > @@ -5498,6 +5498,30 @@ static int zxr_headphone_gain_set(struct hda_codec
> > *codec, long val)
> > return 0;
> > }
> (snip)
>
> It looks like that the patch is malformed by your mailer.
> For avoiding unneeded troubles, please fix the setup or give an
> attachment, too.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
My apologies, forgot to ensure text-mode sending when I replied.
Hopefully better this time.
regards,
Matt
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From 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 09:58:41 -0500
Subject: [PATCH] ALSA: hda/ca0132: Disable auto-detect on manual output select
Commit 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker
auto-detect default from headphone pin verb") enables HP/Speaker
auto-detect by default when the headphone pin supports presence detect.
With auto-detect enabled, ca0132_select_out() and ca0132_alt_select_out()
choose the output from jack presence instead of the manual HP/Speaker
selection. This means selecting speaker output while headphones are
plugged in updates the control state, but audio still routes to the
headphones.
Treat an explicit manual output selection as a request to leave
auto-detect mode. Clear the HP/Speaker auto-detect switch before applying
the manual selection, and notify userspace so the auto-detect control
state is updated in mixers. Do this for both the normal HP/Speaker
Playback Switch and the alternate Output Select control used by desktop
cards.
This keeps auto-detect enabled by default for devices with jack presence
detection, while preserving the expected behavior that a manual output
choice takes effect immediately.
Fixes: 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default from headphone pin verb")
Signed-off-by: Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
---
sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c | 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
diff --git a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
index ad533b04ab29..be565ffaade0 100644
--- a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
+++ b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
@@ -5498,6 +5498,30 @@ static int zxr_headphone_gain_set(struct hda_codec *codec, long val)
return 0;
}
+/*
+ * Manual output selection (HP/Speaker Playback Switch or alt Output Select)
+ * is meaningful only when HP/Speaker auto-detect is disabled, since the
+ * select_out path always prefers jack presence when auto-detect is on. When
+ * the user explicitly chooses an output, turn auto-detect off so the manual
+ * choice actually takes effect, and notify userspace so the auto-detect
+ * control reflects the new state.
+ */
+static void ca0132_disable_hp_auto_detect(struct hda_codec *codec)
+{
+ struct ca0132_spec *spec = codec->spec;
+ struct snd_kcontrol *kctl;
+
+ if (!spec->vnode_lswitch[VNID_HP_ASEL - VNODE_START_NID])
+ return;
+
+ spec->vnode_lswitch[VNID_HP_ASEL - VNODE_START_NID] = 0;
+ kctl = snd_hda_find_mixer_ctl(codec,
+ "HP/Speaker Auto Detect Playback Switch");
+ if (kctl)
+ snd_ctl_notify(codec->card, SNDRV_CTL_EVENT_MASK_VALUE,
+ &kctl->id);
+}
+
static int ca0132_vnode_switch_set(struct snd_kcontrol *kcontrol,
struct snd_ctl_elem_value *ucontrol)
{
@@ -5510,14 +5534,11 @@ static int ca0132_vnode_switch_set(struct snd_kcontrol *kcontrol,
int auto_jack;
if (nid == VNID_HP_SEL) {
- auto_jack =
- spec->vnode_lswitch[VNID_HP_ASEL - VNODE_START_NID];
- if (!auto_jack) {
- if (ca0132_use_alt_functions(spec))
- ca0132_alt_select_out(codec);
- else
- ca0132_select_out(codec);
- }
+ ca0132_disable_hp_auto_detect(codec);
+ if (ca0132_use_alt_functions(spec))
+ ca0132_alt_select_out(codec);
+ else
+ ca0132_select_out(codec);
return 1;
}
@@ -5978,7 +5999,6 @@ static int ca0132_alt_output_select_put(struct snd_kcontrol *kcontrol,
struct ca0132_spec *spec = codec->spec;
int sel = ucontrol->value.enumerated.item[0];
unsigned int items = NUM_OF_OUTPUTS;
- unsigned int auto_jack;
if (sel >= items)
return 0;
@@ -5988,10 +6008,8 @@ static int ca0132_alt_output_select_put(struct snd_kcontrol *kcontrol,
spec->out_enum_val = sel;
- auto_jack = spec->vnode_lswitch[VNID_HP_ASEL - VNODE_START_NID];
-
- if (!auto_jack)
- ca0132_alt_select_out(codec);
+ ca0132_disable_hp_auto_detect(codec);
+ ca0132_alt_select_out(codec);
return 1;
}
--
2.51.0
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* Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
2026-05-07 15:12 ` Matt DeVillier
@ 2026-05-07 18:23 ` Dutch Ingraham
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Dutch Ingraham @ 2026-05-07 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt DeVillier
Cc: Takashi Iwai, Harin Lee, Thorsten Leemhuis, Jaroslav Kysela,
Takashi Iwai, Linux kernel regressions list, Linux Sound System,
LKML
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2026 at 10:12 AM
> From: "Matt DeVillier" <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
> To: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>
> Cc: "Dutch Ingraham" <stoa@gmx.us>, "Harin Lee" <me@harin.net>, "Thorsten Leemhuis" <regressions@leemhuis.info>, "Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>, "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>, "Linux kernel regressions list" <regressions@lists.linux.dev>, "Linux Sound System" <linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>, "LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Subject: Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 10:07 AM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 07 May 2026 17:02:14 +0200,
> > Matt DeVillier wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 8:24 AM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 07 May 2026 14:47:03 +0200,
> > > Dutch Ingraham wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2026 at 1:30 AM
> > > > > From: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>
> > > > > To: "Harin Lee" <me@harin.net>
> > > > > Cc: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>, "Thorsten Leemhuis" <
> > > regressions@leemhuis.info>, "Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>, "Takashi
> > > Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>, "Linux kernel regressions list" <
> > > regressions@lists.linux.dev>, "Linux Sound System" <
> > > linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>, "LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
> > > stoa@gmx.us
> > > > > Subject: Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones
> > > connected on >=7.0.x
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 07 May 2026 00:06:11 +0200,
> > > > > Harin Lee wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/6/26 4:05 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wed, 06 May 2026 08:24:36 +0200,
> > > > > > > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> To quote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound
> > > Blaster Z SE
> > > > > > >>> discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1,
> > > 7.0.2, and
> > > > > > >>> 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or
> > > 6.12.x does
> > > > > > >>> not present the issue.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both
> > > Gentoo and
> > > > > > >>> Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are
> > > connected,
> > > > > > >>> all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of
> > > whether settings
> > > > > > >>> are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no
> > > speaker
> > > > > > >>> output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot,
> > > speakers work;
> > > > > > >>> reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to
> > > headphones.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig
> > > on 6.18.24
> > > > > > >>> .config; Arch standard release
> > > > > > >>> 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached
> > > > > > >>> 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached
> > > > > > >>> pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > > > > >>> alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux
> > > > > > >>> 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and
> > > Arch Linux
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G
> > > > > > >>> Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro
> > > > > > >>> RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4
> > > @3200mHz
> > > > > > >>> Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC
> > > > > > >>> Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers
> > > or head-
> > > > > > >>> phones while both are plugged-in to sound card.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Workaround: none known.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is
> > > affected as
> > > > > > >> well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report
> > > makes it to
> > > > > > >> the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded
> > > this.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this
> > > > > > >> happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this
> > > resolved.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As there have been many significant changes in ctxfi since 6.18,
> > > it's
> > > > > > > hard to tell what broke. Please go git bisect.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Takashi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Creative Sound Blaster Z-series uses the snd_hda_codec_ca0132
> > > driver,
> > > > > > not snd_ctxfi. The dmesg logs in the bugzilla shows only ca0132
> > > > > > entries.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah, sorry, then it's easier. The only major change is the
> > > > > commit 778031e1658d206a52bf9491c91ae5d4f4a2509d
> > > > > ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default from
> > > headphone pin verb
> > > > >
> > > > > Try to revert this one.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Takashi
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can confirm this seems like a good candidate. I built and tested
> > > 6.19.14
> > > > and 7.0. On 6.19.14, speakers work as expected; on 7.0, speakers are
> > > not
> > > > working as expected and the offending patch is included in the 7.0
> > > patchset.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you all for your work on this issue.
> > >
> > > OK, then let's put Matt to the party.
> > > Matt, could you help for debugging the regression?
> > >
> > > Takashi
> > >
> > > I can confirm the regression here on my 2013 Chromebook Pixel w/CA0132.
> > >
> > > Looking more closely, the issue is that tVNID_HP_ASEL and VNID_HP_SEL are
> > > mutually exclusive selection sources in ca0132_select_out() /
> > > ca0132_alt_select_out(),
> > > and auto-detect always "wins." So, enabling auto-detect effectively disabled
> > > user
> > > override.
> > >
> > > While reverting would fix this problem, it would reintroduce the problem of
> > > jack-detect being
> > > ignored completely. A better solution would be to default to auto-detect, but
> > > allow manual selection
> > > to override. Here's a quick patch I whipped up that should resolve the issue
> > > (untested though):
> > > ---
> > > From: Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 09:58:41 -0500
> > > Subject: [PATCH] ALSA: hda/ca0132: Disable auto-detect on manual output
> > > select
> > >
> > > Commit 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker
> > > auto-detect default from headphone pin verb") enables HP/Speaker
> > > auto-detect by default when the headphone pin supports presence detect.
> > >
> > > With auto-detect enabled, ca0132_select_out() and ca0132_alt_select_out()
> > > choose the output from jack presence instead of the manual HP/Speaker
> > > selection. This means selecting speaker output while headphones are
> > > plugged in updates the control state, but audio still routes to the
> > > headphones.
> > >
> > > Treat an explicit manual output selection as a request to leave
> > > auto-detect mode. Clear the HP/Speaker auto-detect switch before applying
> > > the manual selection, and notify userspace so the auto-detect control
> > > state is updated in mixers. Do this for both the normal HP/Speaker
> > > Playback Switch and the alternate Output Select control used by desktop
> > > cards.
> > >
> > > This keeps auto-detect enabled by default for devices with jack presence
> > > detection, while preserving the expected behavior that a manual output
> > > choice takes effect immediately.
> > >
> > > Fixes: 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default
> > > from headphone pin verb")
> > > Signed-off-by: Matt DeVillier <matt.devillier@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > > sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c | 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
> > > 1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
> > > index ad533b04ab29..be565ffaade0 100644
> > > --- a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
> > > +++ b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c
> > > @@ -5498,6 +5498,30 @@ static int zxr_headphone_gain_set(struct hda_codec
> > > *codec, long val)
> > > return 0;
> > > }
> > (snip)
> >
> > It looks like that the patch is malformed by your mailer.
> > For avoiding unneeded troubles, please fix the setup or give an
> > attachment, too.
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Takashi
>
> My apologies, forgot to ensure text-mode sending when I replied.
> Hopefully better this time.
>
> regards,
> Matt
>
Patched against originally non-working v7.0. Now, works as expected; can
choose Line Out / Speaker or Line Out / Headphones and default holds
across reboots.
Thank you Matt and all others who gave your attention to this issue.
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