From: Kuninori Morimoto <kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com>
To: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/23] ASoC: soc-pcm: cleanup soc_get_playback_capture()
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 04:46:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edaym2cg.wl-kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92054f87-dded-4b66-8108-8b2a10909883@linux.intel.com>
Hi Pierre-Louis
Cc Mark
> Your explanation seems to contradict the sentence above "This
> availability check should be available not only for DPCM, but for all
> connections."
>
> Can we actually do this 'availability check' for non-DPCM connections.
>
> > How about this ?
> >
> > If either playback or capture assertion flag was presented,
> > not presented direction will be disabled by ASoC even if
> > it was available.
>
> Did you mean
>
> "
> The playback (resp. capture) direction will be disabled by ASoC if the
> playback_assertion (resp. capture) flag is false - even if this
> direction was available at the DAI level
> "
> > (0, 0) : Both are not must item. available direction is used as-is.
> > But it will be error if nothing was available.
>
> That new wording makes me even more confused. What does 'available'
> refer to and at which level is this?
>
> This seems also to contradict the definitions above, "available
> direction is used as-is" is not aligned with "not presented direction
> will be disabled by ASoC even if it was available".
It is complicated by the attempt to merge dpcm_xxx and xxx_only flags.
And I noticed that my one of other attemption was not indicated.
Let's cleanup what does this patch-set want to do
I still wondering why dpcm_xxx flag itself is needed.
(A) Before, it checks channels_min for DPCM, same as current non-DPCM.
This is very clear for me. Let's name this as "validation check"
if (rtd->dai_link->dynamic || rtd->dai_link->no_pcm) {
if (cpu_dai->driver->playback.channels_min)
playback = 1;
if (cpu_dai->driver->capture.channels_min)
capture = 1;
(B) commit 1e9de42f4324b91ce2e9da0939cab8fc6ae93893
("Explicitly set BE DAI link supported stream directions") force use to
dpcm_xxx flag
if (rtd->dai_link->dynamic || rtd->dai_link->no_pcm) {
playback = rtd->dai_link->dpcm_playback;
capture = rtd->dai_link->dpcm_capture;
(C) 9b5db059366ae2087e07892b5fc108f81f4ec189
("ASoC: soc-pcm: dpcm: Only allow playback/capture if supported")
checks channels_min (= validation check) again
if (rtd->dai_link->dynamic || rtd->dai_link->no_pcm) {
cpu_dai = asoc_rtd_to_cpu(rtd, 0);
...
playback = rtd->dai_link->dpcm_playback &&
snd_soc_dai_stream_valid(cpu_dai, SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK);
capture = rtd->dai_link->dpcm_capture &&
snd_soc_dai_stream_valid(cpu_dai, SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_CAPTURE);
(D) b73287f0b0745961b14e5ebcce92cc8ed24d4d52
("ASoC: soc-pcm: dpcm: fix playback/capture checks") expanded it to
multi connection.
So, I would say nothing has changed, but become more complicated.
Or if (B) added dpcm_xxx as "option flag", it was understandable for me.
like this
if (rtd->dai_link->dynamic || rtd->dai_link->no_pcm) {
playback = (cpu_dai->driver->playback.channels_min > 0) ||
rtd->dai_link->dpcm_playback;
capture = (cpu_dai->driver->capture.channels_min > 0) ||
rtd->dai_link->dpcm_capture;
So my opinion is this dpcm_xxx is unnecessary flag that only complicate
matters. I guess almost all Card don't need this flag, this means
"validation check" only is veryenough, same as current non-DPCM.
But because of these history, dpcm_xxx flag have been used as
"passage permit" or "gate way". It doesn't try to "validation check" if
dpcm_xxx flag was not set. This is the reason why I try to merge
dpcm_xxx and xxx_only flag. These are doing the same things with
dirrerent flags, IMO.
OTOH, some Card want to detect error if expected direction
(playback/capture) was not valid. I guess this is your commitment (?).
So, let's keep xxx_only flag as-is, and use dpcm_xxx as "available_check".
I'm not sure what is the good naming, but for example
"playback_available_check" flag means "owner is expecting playback is
valid/available, and want to receive error if not".
I'm not sure how many owner want this flag, thus I think "option flag"
is very enough (= not mandatory, as I mentioned in the patch-set).
If we makes these checks generalize,
For DPCM, (for example new DPCM) it can remove/ignore "available_check"
flag if it don't need, same as current non-DPCM.
And for non-DPCM, it can use "available_check" if needed,
same as current DPCM.
What do you think ? what is your opinion ?
Thank you for your help !!
Best regards
---
Renesas Electronics
Ph.D. Kuninori Morimoto
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-22 4:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-18 4:11 [PATCH v3 00/23] ASoC: Replace dpcm_playback/capture to playback/capture_assertion Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:12 ` [PATCH v3 01/23] ASoC: soc-pcm: cleanup soc_get_playback_capture() Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 16:20 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-04-19 1:09 ` Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-19 13:17 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-04-22 4:46 ` Kuninori Morimoto [this message]
2024-04-22 20:12 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-04-23 4:56 ` Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-25 5:32 ` Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-25 15:20 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-04-25 21:59 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-04-26 0:24 ` Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-26 4:00 ` Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:12 ` [PATCH v3 02/23] ASoC: soc-pcm: indicate warning if DPCM BE Codec has no settings Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:12 ` [PATCH v3 03/23] ASoC: soc-dai: remove snd_soc_dai_link_set_capabilities() Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:12 ` [PATCH v3 04/23] ASoC: amd: Replace dpcm_playback/capture to playback/capture_assertion Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:13 ` [PATCH v3 05/23] ASoC: fsl: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:13 ` [PATCH v3 06/23] ASoC: sof: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:13 ` [PATCH v3 07/23] ASoC: meson: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:13 ` [PATCH v3 08/23] ASoC: Intel: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:13 ` [PATCH v3 09/23] ASoC: mediatek: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:13 ` [PATCH v3 10/23] ASoC: soc-core: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:14 ` [PATCH v3 11/23] ASoC: soc-topology: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:14 ` [PATCH v3 12/23] ASoC: soc-compress: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:14 ` [PATCH v3 13/23] ASoC: Intel: avs: boards: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:14 ` [PATCH v3 14/23] ASoC: ti: Replace playback/capture_only " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:14 ` [PATCH v3 15/23] ASoC: amd: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:14 ` [PATCH v3 16/23] ASoC: fsl: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:14 ` [PATCH v3 17/23] ASoC: mxs: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:15 ` [PATCH v3 18/23] ASoC: atmel: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:15 ` [PATCH v3 19/23] ASoC: Intel: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 11:19 ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-04-18 16:26 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-04-19 7:31 ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-04-18 4:15 ` [PATCH v3 20/23] ASoC: samsung: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:15 ` [PATCH v3 21/23] ASoC: generic: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:15 ` [PATCH v3 22/23] ASoC: soc-pcm: remove dpcm_playback/capture and playback/capture_only Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 4:15 ` [PATCH v3 23/23] ASoC: doc: Replace dpcm_playback/capture to playback/capture_assertion Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-22 21:10 ` [PATCH v3 00/23] ASoC: " Pierre-Louis Bossart
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