Re: [RFC PATCH 01/16] Documentation: driver: add SoundWire BRA description

[Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>]

On 18-12-23, 13:58, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> 
> >>  Documentation/driver-api/soundwire/bra.rst    | 478 ++++++++++++++++++
> > 
> > Can we split the cadence parts of this to bra-cadence.rst that way this
> > file documents the core parts only
> 
> Yes, we can split the Cadence parts out.

Great

> 
> 
> >> +Error handling
> >> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> +
> >> +The expected response to a 'bra_message' and follow-up behavior may
> >> +vary:
> >> +
> >> +   (1) A Peripheral driver may want to receive an immediate -EBUSY
> >> +       response if the BRA protocol is not available at a given time.
> >> +
> >> +   (2) A Peripheral driver may want to wait until a timeout for the
> >> +       on-going transfer to be handled
> >> +
> >> +   (3) A Peripheral driver may want to wait until existing BRA
> >> +       transfers complete or deal with BRA as a background task when
> >> +       audio transfers stop. In this case, there would be no timeout,
> >> +       and the operation may not happen if the platform is suspended.
> > 
> > Is this runtime suspend or S3/S4 case?
> 
> System suspend (which can also mean S0i1).
> 
> I don't think we can have a case where a peripheral driver waits on
> something without having done a pm_runtime_get_sync() to prevent
> runtime_pm suspend.
> 
> > 
> >> +BTP/BRA API available to peripheral drivers
> >> +-------------------------------------------
> >> +
> >> +ASoC Peripheral drivers may use
> >> +
> >> +   - sdw_bpt_stream_open(mode)
> >> +
> >> +      This function verifies that the BPT protocol with the
> >> +      'mode'. For now only BRA is accepted as a mode. This function
> >> +      allocates a work buffer internally. This buffer is not exposed
> >> +      to the caller.
> >> +
> >> +     errors:
> >> +         -ENODEV: BPT/BRA is not supported by the Manager.
> >> +
> >> +         -EBUSY: another agent is already using the audio payload for
> >> +          audio transfers. There is no way to predict when the audio
> >> +          streams might stop, this will require the Peripheral driver
> >> +          to fall back to the regular (slow) command channel.
> >> +
> >> +         -EAGAIN: another agent is already transferring data using the
> >> +          BPT/BRA protocol. Since the transfers will typically last
> >> +          10s or 100s of ms, the Peripheral driver may wait and retry
> >> +          later.
> >> +
> >> +    - sdw_bpt_message_send_async(bpt_message)
> > 
> > why not have a single API that does both? First check if it is supported
> > and then allocate buffers and do the transfer.. What are the advantages
> > of using this two step process
> 
> Symmetry is the only thing that comes to my mind. Open - close and send
> - wait are natural matches, aren't they?

Why have symmetry to DAI apis, why not symmetry to regmap write APIs..?
This is data transfer, so I am not sure why would we model it as a DAI.
(Internal implementation may rely on that but from API design, i dont
think that should be a concern)

> 
> We do need a wait(), so bundling open() and send() would be odd.
> 
> But you have a point that the open() is not generic in that it also
> prepares the DMA buffers for transmission. Maybe it's more natural to
> follow the traditional open(), hw_params(), hw_free, close() from ALSA.

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~Vinod