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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	tiwai@suse.de, vinod.koul@intel.com,
	Bard liao <yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com>,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com>,
	Kai Vehmanen <kai.vehmanen@linux.intel.com>,
	srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	vijendar.mukunda@amd.com,
	Charles Keepax <ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com>,
	Richard Fitzgerald <rf@opensource.cirrus.com>,
	Shuming Fan <shumingf@realtek.com>, Jack Yu <jack.yu@realtek.com>,
	Oder Chiou <oder_chiou@realtek.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 01/16] Documentation: driver: add SoundWire BRA description
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 09:48:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <be277abb-af6c-470f-8237-17f45bd990b8@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38d0c1c9-d60c-4ddd-b2ee-091d1717a377@sirena.org.uk>

Hi Mark,

>> +One possible strategy to speed-up all initialization tasks would be to
>> +start a BRA transfer for firmware download, then deal with all the
>> +"regular" read/writes in parallel with the command channel, and last
>> +to wait for the BRA transfers to complete. This would allow for a
>> +degree of overlap instead of a purely sequential solution. As a
>> +results, the BRA API must support async transfers and expose a
>> +separate wait function.
> 
> This feels a lot like it could map onto the regmap async interface, it
> would need a bit of a rework (mainly that currently they provide
> ordering guarantees with respect to both each other and sync I/O) but
> those could be removed with some care) but it's got the "here's a list
> of I/O, here's another call to ensure it's all actually happened" thing.
> It sounds very much like how I was thinking of the async API when I was
> writing it and the initial users.
> 
> It's this bit that really got me thinking it could fit well into regmap.

I am now revisiting this entire patchset to try to enable firmware
downloads with this SoundWire BPT/BRA protocol. I re-looked at
regmap_raw_write_async()/regmap_async_complete() and they seem to map
well with my initial write/wait_async proposal.

Do I get this right that these async capabilities could be used to
enable this faster SoundWire protocol, but the regular regmap_write()
could still happen in parallel with these async transfers? This could be
useful if e.g. there's a jack detection while downloading firmware for
another function.

I don't see any locking that would prevent such a dual operation - with
the caveat that it would be up to the codec driver to make sure they
don't try to access the same register with the two modes of operation.

The only thing that would need to be extended is that we'd need
additional callbacks to check if the protocol is supported on a given
hardware/firmware platform, and if there's no audio stream. In these
cases the async writes would be demoted to regular writes. Otherwise the
bus would be locked to make sure no reconfiguration takes place while
the firmware download happens, and unlocked when the transfer ends.

Thanks for your help on all this,
-Pierre

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-20  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-07 22:29 [RFC PATCH 00/16] soundwire/ASoC: speed-up downloads with BTP/BRA protocol Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] Documentation: driver: add SoundWire BRA description Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 23:29   ` Mark Brown
2023-12-08  0:56     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-08 21:49       ` Mark Brown
2023-12-19 16:50         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-19 16:53           ` Mark Brown
2023-12-19 17:08             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-20 15:16               ` Charles Keepax
2023-12-20 18:26                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-20 18:28                   ` Mark Brown
2023-12-21  9:46                   ` Charles Keepax
2024-08-20  7:48     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2024-08-20 11:53       ` Mark Brown
2024-08-20 14:58         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-08-20 15:09           ` Mark Brown
2023-12-08 16:27   ` Charles Keepax
2023-12-08 18:45     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-08 18:55       ` Mark Brown
2023-12-18 11:40   ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-18 12:58     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-18 14:29       ` Charles Keepax
2023-12-18 16:33         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-21 14:45           ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-21 14:44         ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-21 14:44       ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] soundwire: cadence: add BTP support for DP0 Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] soundwire: stream: extend sdw_alloc_stream() to take 'type' parameter Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] soundwire: extend sdw_stream_type to BPT Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] soundwire: stream: special-case the bus compute_params() routine Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] soundwire: stream: reuse existing code for BPT stream Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-12 12:30   ` Charles Keepax
2023-12-18 10:45     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] soundwire: bus: add API for BPT protocol Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-12 12:19   ` Charles Keepax
2023-12-18 10:38     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-18 11:54   ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-18 13:12     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-18 14:57       ` Charles Keepax
2023-12-18 16:44         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-21 14:49       ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] soundwire: bus: add bpt_stream pointer Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-18 11:55   ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-18 13:20     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-21 14:39       ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-21 17:09         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] soundwire: crc8: add constant table Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-18 12:01   ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-18 13:26     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-21 14:42       ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-21 17:15         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-21 17:21           ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] soundwire: cadence: add BTP/BRA helpers to format data Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] soundwire: intel_auxdevice: add indirection for BPT open/close/send_async/wait Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] ASoC: SOF: Intel: hda-sdw-bpt: add helpers for SoundWire BPT DMA Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] soundwire: intel: add BPT context definition Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] soundwire: intel_ace2x: add BPT open/close/send_async/wait Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] soundwire: debugfs: add interface for BPT/BRA transfers Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] ASoC: rt711-sdca: add DP0 support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-12-07 22:56 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] soundwire/ASoC: speed-up downloads with BTP/BRA protocol Mark Brown
2023-12-07 23:06   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart

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