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From: "Amadeusz Sławiński" <amadeuszx.slawinski@linux.intel.com>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-sound@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ASoC: core: Change device numbering
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 13:41:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fabca478-69cc-436e-b0c4-2ffec183e66a@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50f5fa11-55f2-4928-97a6-b4758e8d9d52@perex.cz>

On 1/31/2025 10:03 AM, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> On 29. 01. 25 15:51, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote:
>> On 1/29/2025 10:25 AM, Cezary Rojewski wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-27 3:54 PM, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
>>>> On 27. 01. 25 15:45, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>>>> Also, a bit off-topic, but the driver name (hdaudioB?D?) for this
>>>> particular driver should be corrected, too. It should be like 'hda-
>>>> avs- dsp' or so. If I am not wrong, the SST driver name was 'hda-dsp'.
>>>
>>> We had a discussion or two within the team and yes, we do agree that a
>>> more user-friendly pattern should be provided. Currently card names are
>>> mostly based on machine board device (platform_device) name. There is no
>>> strong technical argument for that - the development was/is simply
>>> focused on bringing new functionality and we did not prioritize the card
>>> naming.
>>>
>>> The task touches all interfaces though, not just HDA. We would like to
>>> streamline or fix the naming for all the interfaces. This time we will
>>> specifically request a review for that : )
>>
>> And we had yet another discussion today ;) Are there some guidelines
>> upstream, about how cards should be named? Currently we need names for:
> I am not aware of any documentation, but it should be user friendly and 
> meaningful. I am talking about driver name not other UI parts, but they 
> should be probably corrected, too.
> 
> The driver name is more related to the kernel module name and it should 
> just identify the affected driver not runtime (like addressing). Runtime 
> descriptors should be put to the components string.
> 
>> HDA, HDMI, DMIC & I2S cards. Here are examples from running systems:
>> HDA:
>> card 0: hdaudioB0D0 [hdaudioB0D0], device 1: HDAudio Analog (*) []
>> HDMI:
>> card 1: hdaudioB0D2 [hdaudioB0D2], device 1: HDMI 0 (*) []
>> DMIC:
>> card 2: avsdmic [avs_dmic], device 2: Digital Microphone (*) []
>> I2S:
>> card 3: avsrt274 [avs_rt274], device 1: Audio (*) []
> 
> You should probably show all card info strings ('cat /proc/asound/cards' 
> or 'alsactl info 0').
> 
> There are basically four strings:
> 
> 1) driver name (used for alsa-lib / ucm configs)
> 2) card short name (for UI)
> 3) card long name (for UI)
> 4) card components (more precise driver/hw identification)
> 
> The components string can be printed using 'amixer -c 0 info' or 
> 'alsactl info 0' command.
> 
> I think that in your case, you just set the short name which is copied 
> to the driver name in the ASoC core. The avs_dmic/avs_rt274 names seems 
> fine, but only the hdaudioB?C? names are really mess (including card 
> short name).
> 
So, as I understand you want something like the following and to 
differentiate cards in UCM using component?

# aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: avshdaudio [avs_hdaudio], device 1: HDAudio Analog (*) []
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: avshdaudio_1 [avs_hdaudio], device 1: HDMI 1 (*) []
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: avshdaudio_1 [avs_hdaudio], device 2: HDMI 2 (*) []
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: avshdaudio_1 [avs_hdaudio], device 3: HDMI 3 (*) []
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
root@test-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-6th:/home/test# cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [avshdaudio     ]: avs_hdaudio - avs_hdaudio
                       LENOVO-20KH006LPB-ThinkPadX1Carbon6th
  1 [avshdaudio_1   ]: avs_hdaudio - avs_hdaudio
                       LENOVO-20KH006LPB-ThinkPadX1Carbon6th
# alsactl info 0
#
# Sound card
#
- card: 0
   id: avshdaudio
   name: avs_hdaudio
   longname: LENOVO-20KH006LPB-ThinkPadX1Carbon6th
   driver_name: avs_hdaudio
   mixer_name: Realtek ALC285
   components: HDA:10ec0285,17aa225c,00100002
   controls_count: 14
   pcm:
     - stream: PLAYBACK
       devices:
         - device: 1
           id: HDAudio Analog (*)
           name:
           subdevices:
             - subdevice: 0
               name: subdevice #0
     - stream: CAPTURE
       devices:
         - device: 1
           id: HDAudio Analog (*)
           name:
           subdevices:
             - subdevice: 0
               name: subdevice #0
alsactl: rawmidi_device_list:105: snd_ctl_rawmidi_next_device
# alsactl info 1
#
# Sound card
#
- card: 1
   id: avshdaudio_1
   name: avs_hdaudio
   longname: LENOVO-20KH006LPB-ThinkPadX1Carbon6th
   driver_name: avs_hdaudio
   mixer_name: Intel Kabylake HDMI
   components: HDA:8086280b,80860101,00100000
   controls_count: 21
   pcm:
     - stream: PLAYBACK
       devices:
         - device: 1
           id: HDMI 1 (*)
           name:
           subdevices:
             - subdevice: 0
               name: subdevice #0
         - device: 2
           id: HDMI 2 (*)
           name:
           subdevices:
             - subdevice: 0
               name: subdevice #0
         - device: 3
           id: HDMI 3 (*)
           name:
           subdevices:
             - subdevice: 0
               name: subdevice #0
alsactl: rawmidi_device_list:105: snd_ctl_rawmidi_next_device



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-31 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-27 14:44 [PATCH] ASoC: core: Change device numbering Amadeusz Sławiński
2025-01-27 14:45 ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2025-01-27 14:54   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-01-29  9:25     ` Cezary Rojewski
2025-01-29 14:51       ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2025-01-31  9:03         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-01-31 12:41           ` Amadeusz Sławiński [this message]
2025-01-31 16:18             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-02-11 10:53               ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2025-02-11 13:30                 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-02-11 13:33                   ` Takashi Iwai
2025-02-11 13:56                   ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2025-02-11 14:50                     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-02-11 15:12                       ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2025-02-12 13:39                         ` Jaroslav Kysela

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