"noise" while recording with an OPL3SAx

"noise" while recording with an OPL3SAx

[Jérôme Augé]

Hi,

I have a Toshiba Satellite 2540CDT with an OPL3SAx soundcard and I
noticed that there is noise in the sample when I record even when there
is nothing connected to the inputs (mic/line/..).
I tried Alsa and I noticed that with Alsa there is no more noise but If
I boot again with OSS the noise is back when recording. I also noticed
that the noise disappear when using OSS after unloading Alsa modules.
So I've made a patch for OSS (by looking at Alsa driver source) that fix
this noise but before posting the patch I'd like to know if someone else
noticed this noise with OSS or if it occurs only with me ?

Thanks

P.S. I'm using RH6.2 kernel 2.2.14-5.0 and 2.4.0-test4

Re: "noise" while recording with an OPL3SAx

[Rainer Wiener]

Hi Jérôme!

On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Jérôme Augé wrote:

> So I've made a patch for OSS (by looking at Alsa driver source) that fix
> this noise but before posting the patch I'd like to know if someone else
> noticed this noise with OSS or if it occurs only with me ?

I use the Toshiba Satellite 300CDS with a OPL3SAx and I have the same noice.
If I want to record something over my mic I have it but I have it also when
I use the inline. So please send me the patch.

> P.S. I'm using RH6.2 kernel 2.2.14-5.0 and 2.4.0-test4
I use RH6.1beta kernel 2.2.16

Cu
Rainer

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Re: "noise" while recording with an OPL3SAx

[I.S.Wolfe]

> I tried Alsa and I noticed that with Alsa there
> is no more noise but If I boot again with OSS the
> noise is back when recording.  I also noticed that
> the noise disappear when using OSS after unloading
> Alsa modules. 

I'm unfamiliar with both your Satellite and your
Red Hat, so perhaps I should keep my mouth shut. 
But the combination you describe makes me think of
how Alsa mutes the mike (and everything else) and
OSS (I think) doesn't, so if your machine has a
built-in mike, you may be mixing in computer and
other background noises without realizing it, until
you run Alsa and it mutes the mike.  If I'm write,
setting a mute mike with aumix, say, doing a save
there, and then running aumix -L when you log in,
might solve the problem.

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Re: "noise" while recording with an OPL3SAx

[Rainer Wiener]

Hi I.S.Wolfe!

On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, I.S.Wolfe@happy-man.com wrote:


> I'm unfamiliar with both your Satellite and your
> Red Hat, so perhaps I should keep my mouth shut. 
> But the combination you describe makes me think of
> how Alsa mutes the mike (and everything else) and
> OSS (I think) doesn't, so if your machine has a
> built-in mike, you may be mixing in computer and
> other background noises without realizing it, until
> you run Alsa and it mutes the mike.  If I'm write,
> setting a mute mike with aumix, say, doing a save
> there, and then running aumix -L when you log in,
> might solve the problem.

Yes, the problem is also there. I have an external mic and even when I plug
it out and record something from my MD I have the same noises. So it would
not be the mic. At the first time I thought it was the mic but this is not so.

Cu
Rainer
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Re: "noise" while recording with an OPL3SAx

[Jérôme Augé]

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Rainer Wiener wrote:
> 
> Hi I.S.Wolfe!
> 
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, I.S.Wolfe@happy-man.com wrote:
> 
> > I'm unfamiliar with both your Satellite and your
> > Red Hat, so perhaps I should keep my mouth shut.
> > But the combination you describe makes me think of
> > how Alsa mutes the mike (and everything else) and
> > OSS (I think) doesn't, so if your machine has a
> > built-in mike, you may be mixing in computer and
> > other background noises without realizing it, until
> > you run Alsa and it mutes the mike.  If I'm write,
> > setting a mute mike with aumix, say, doing a save
> > there, and then running aumix -L when you log in,
> > might solve the problem.
> 
> Yes, the problem is also there. I have an external mic and even when I plug
> it out and record something from my MD I have the same noises. So it would
> not be the mic. At the first time I thought it was the mic but this is not so.
> 

I thought it was a problem with some input level/gain but when sampling
my voice, for example, and then later listening at it I could hear my
voice + some "scratch" noises.
This is a quick patch based on comparison between OSS and Alsa driver
initialization. I'm not an expert with kernel/sound programming so test
this patch and tell me if I'm wrong somewhere ...

I tested it with kernel 2.2.14 and 2.4.0-test4.

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diff -u --recursive linux-2.4.0-test4.orig/drivers/sound/opl3sa2.c linux-2.4.0-test4/drivers/sound/opl3sa2.c
--- linux-2.4.0-test4.orig/drivers/sound/opl3sa2.c	Tue Mar  7 22:40:24 2000
+++ linux-2.4.0-test4/drivers/sound/opl3sa2.c	Sun Jul 16 17:50:05 2000
@@ -598,6 +598,15 @@
    	request_region(hw_config->io_base, 2, chipset_name);
 
 	devc->cfg_port = hw_config->io_base;
+
+	/*printk("OPL3-SAx dma init  ...");*/
+	if( hw_config->dma == hw_config->dma2 ) {
+		/*printk(" DMA1=DMA2=%d\n", hw_config->dma );*/
+		opl3sa2_write(devc->cfg_port, 0x06, 0x03);
+	} else {
+		/*printk(" DMA1=%d DMA2=%d\n", hw_config->dma, hw_config->dma2);*/
+		opl3sa2_write(devc->cfg_port, 0x06, 0x21);
+	}
 }
 
 

Re: "noise" while recording with an OPL3SAx

[Rainer Wiener]

Moin Jérôme!

Jérôme Augé schrieb am Sonntag, den 16. Juli 2000:


> > Yes, the problem is also there. I have an external mic and even when I plug
> > it out and record something from my MD I have the same noises. So it would
> > not be the mic. At the first time I thought it was the mic but this is not so.
> > 
> 
> I thought it was a problem with some input level/gain but when sampling
> my voice, for example, and then later listening at it I could hear my
> voice + some "scratch" noises.
> This is a quick patch based on comparison between OSS and Alsa driver
> initialization. I'm not an expert with kernel/sound programming so test
> this patch and tell me if I'm wrong somewhere ...

with 2.2.16 it works great.

Thanks

Cu
Rainer
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Re: "noise" while recording with an OPL3SAx

[Scott Murray]

On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Jirtme Augi wrote:

[snip]
> I tried Alsa and I noticed that with Alsa there is no more noise but If
> I boot again with OSS the noise is back when recording. I also noticed
> that the noise disappear when using OSS after unloading Alsa modules.
> So I've made a patch for OSS (by looking at Alsa driver source) that fix
> this noise but before posting the patch I'd like to know if someone else
> noticed this noise with OSS or if it occurs only with me ?

I'm currently at OLS, but I'll look at the patch in more detail when
I get home.  When I pieced together the OSS OPL3-SAx driver that's in
the kernel I assumed that the recording limitations were in the under-
lying ad1848 code, but obviously I missed something in Yamaha's docs.
I'm planning on sending a patch for 2.4.0-test to Linus/Alan soon after
OLS, as a couple of people have sent me PnP integration code that I need
to merge and test.

Scott


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