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From: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
To: Furong Xu <0x1207@gmail.com>
Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Brad Griffis <bgriffis@nvidia.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Joe Damato <jdamato@fastly.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	xfr@outlook.com,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 1/4] net: stmmac: Switch to zero-copy in non-XDP RX path
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 13:42:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d9e68df-9a66-4f84-b30d-3789cbed0d71@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250207170744.00006ceb@gmail.com>



On 07/02/2025 09:07, Furong Xu wrote:
> Hi Jon,
> 
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 14:51:35 +0000, Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com> wrote:
>> Hi Furong,
>>
>> On 27/01/2025 13:28, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 11:03:47PM +0800, Furong Xu wrote:
>>>> Hi Thierry
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 12:20:38 +0200, Ido Schimmel wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 10:42:56AM +0800, Furong Xu wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:48:42 +0100, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Just to clarify, the patch that you had us try was not intended
>>>>>>>> as an actual fix, correct? It was only for diagnostic purposes,
>>>>>>>> i.e. to see if there is some kind of cache coherence issue,
>>>>>>>> which seems to be the case?  So perhaps the only fix needed is
>>>>>>>> to add dma-coherent to our device tree?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That sounds quite error prone. How many other DT blobs are
>>>>>>> missing the property? If the memory should be coherent, i would
>>>>>>> expect the driver to allocate coherent memory. Or the driver
>>>>>>> needs to handle non-coherent memory and add the necessary
>>>>>>> flush/invalidates etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stmmac driver does the necessary cache flush/invalidates to
>>>>>> maintain cache lines explicitly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given the problem happens when the kernel performs syncing, is it
>>>>> possible that there is a problem with how the syncing is performed?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not familiar with this driver, but it seems to allocate multiple
>>>>> buffers per packet when split header is enabled and these buffers are
>>>>> allocated from the same page pool (see stmmac_init_rx_buffers()).
>>>>> Despite that, the driver is creating the page pool with a non-zero
>>>>> offset (see __alloc_dma_rx_desc_resources()) to avoid syncing the
>>>>> headroom, which is only present in the head buffer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked Thierry to test the following patch [1] and initial testing
>>>>> seems OK. He also confirmed that "SPH feature enabled" shows up in the
>>>>> kernel log.
>>>>
>>>> It is recommended to disable the "SPH feature" by default unless some
>>>> certain cases depend on it. Like Ido said, two large buffers being
>>>> allocated from the same page pool for each packet, this is a huge waste
>>>> of memory, and brings performance drops for most of general cases.
>>>>
>>>> Our downstream driver and two mainline drivers disable SPH by default:
>>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/tree/drivers/net/ethernet/stmicro/stmmac/dwmac-dwc-qos-eth.c#n357
>>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/tree/drivers/net/ethernet/stmicro/stmmac/dwmac-intel.c#n471
>>>
>>> Okay, that's something we can look into changing. What would be an
>>> example of a use-case depending on SPH? Also, isn't this something
>>> that should be a policy that users can configure?
>>>
>>> Irrespective of that we should fix the problems we are seeing with
>>> SPH enabled.
>>
>>
>> Any update on this?
> 
> Sorry for my late response, I was on Chinese New Year holiday.

No problem! Happy new year!

> The fix is sent, and it will be so nice to have your Tested-by: tag there:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250207085639.13580-1-0x1207@gmail.com/

Thanks, I have tested and responded. All looking good!

Jon

-- 
nvpublic


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-07 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <bd7aabf4d9b6696885922ed4bef8fc95142d3004.1736910454.git.0x1207@gmail.com>
2025-01-23 14:06   ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/4] net: stmmac: Switch to zero-copy in non-XDP RX path Jon Hunter
2025-01-23 16:35     ` Furong Xu
2025-01-23 19:53       ` Brad Griffis
2025-01-23 21:48         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-24  2:42           ` Furong Xu
2025-01-24 13:15             ` Thierry Reding
2025-01-28 20:04               ` Lucas Stach
2025-01-25 10:20             ` Ido Schimmel
2025-01-25 14:43               ` Furong Xu
2025-01-26  8:41                 ` Ido Schimmel
2025-01-26 10:37                   ` Furong Xu
2025-01-26 11:35                     ` Ido Schimmel
2025-01-26 12:56                       ` Furong Xu
2025-01-25 15:03               ` Furong Xu
2025-01-25 19:08                 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-26  2:39                   ` Furong Xu
2025-01-27 13:28                 ` Thierry Reding
2025-01-29 14:51                   ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-07  9:07                     ` Furong Xu
2025-02-07 13:42                       ` Jon Hunter [this message]
2025-01-24  1:53         ` Furong Xu
2025-01-24 15:14           ` Andrew Lunn

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