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From: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v17 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 06:49:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260518134929.1947933-1-usama.arif@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260511185817.686831-5-npache@redhat.com>

On Mon, 11 May 2026 12:58:04 -0600 Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com> wrote:

> generalize the order of the __collapse_huge_page_* and collapse_max_*
> functions to support future mTHP collapse.
> 
> The current mechanism for determining collapse with the
> khugepaged_max_ptes_none value is not designed with mTHP in mind. This
> raises a key design issue: if we support user defined max_pte_none values
> (even those scaled by order), a collapse of a lower order can introduces
> an feedback loop, or "creep", when max_ptes_none is set to a value greater
> than HPAGE_PMD_NR / 2. [1]
> 
> With this configuration, a successful collapse to order N will populate
> enough pages to satisfy the collapse condition on order N+1 on the next
> scan. This leads to unnecessary work and memory churn.
> 
> To fix this issue introduce a helper function that will limit mTHP
> collapse support to two max_ptes_none values, 0 and HPAGE_PMD_NR - 1.
> This effectively supports two modes: [2]
> 
> - max_ptes_none=0: never collapses if it encounters an empty PTE or a PTE
>   that maps the shared zeropage. Consequently, no memory bloat.
> - max_ptes_none=511 (on 4k pagesz): Always collapse to the highest
>   available mTHP order.
> 
> This removes the possiblilty of "creep", while not modifying any uAPI
> expectations. A warning will be emitted if any non-supported
> max_ptes_none value is configured with mTHP enabled.
> 
> mTHP collapse will not honor the khugepaged_max_ptes_shared or
> khugepaged_max_ptes_swap parameters, and will fail if it encounters a
> shared or swapped entry.
> 
> No functional changes in this patch; however it defines future behavior
> for mTHP collapse.
> 
> [1] - https://lore.kernel.org/all/e46ab3ab-a3d7-4fb7-9970-d0704bd5d05a@arm.com
> [2] - https://lore.kernel.org/all/37375ace-5601-4d6c-9dac-d1c8268698e9@redhat.com
> 
> Co-developed-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
> ---
>  include/trace/events/huge_memory.h |   3 +-
>  mm/khugepaged.c                    | 117 ++++++++++++++++++++---------
>  2 files changed, 85 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h b/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
> index bcdc57eea270..443e0bd13fdb 100644
> --- a/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
> +++ b/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
> @@ -39,7 +39,8 @@
>  	EM( SCAN_STORE_FAILED,		"store_failed")			\
>  	EM( SCAN_COPY_MC,		"copy_poisoned_page")		\
>  	EM( SCAN_PAGE_FILLED,		"page_filled")			\
> -	EMe(SCAN_PAGE_DIRTY_OR_WRITEBACK, "page_dirty_or_writeback")
> +	EM(SCAN_PAGE_DIRTY_OR_WRITEBACK, "page_dirty_or_writeback")	\
> +	EMe(SCAN_INVALID_PTES_NONE,	"invalid_ptes_none")
>  
>  #undef EM
>  #undef EMe
> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> index f68853b3caa7..27465161fa6d 100644
> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> @@ -61,6 +61,7 @@ enum scan_result {
>  	SCAN_COPY_MC,
>  	SCAN_PAGE_FILLED,
>  	SCAN_PAGE_DIRTY_OR_WRITEBACK,
> +	SCAN_INVALID_PTES_NONE,
>  };
>  
>  #define CREATE_TRACE_POINTS
> @@ -353,37 +354,60 @@ static bool pte_none_or_zero(pte_t pte)
>   * PTEs for the given collapse operation.
>   * @cc: The collapse control struct
>   * @vma: The vma to check for userfaultfd
> + * @order: The folio order being collapsed to
>   *
>   * Return: Maximum number of none-page or zero-page PTEs allowed for the
>   * collapse operation.
>   */
> -static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_none(struct collapse_control *cc,
> -		struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> +static int collapse_max_ptes_none(struct collapse_control *cc,
> +		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned int order)
>  {
> +	unsigned int max_ptes_none = khugepaged_max_ptes_none;
>  	// If the vma is userfaultfd-armed, allow no none-page or zero-page PTEs.
>  	if (vma && userfaultfd_armed(vma))
>  		return 0;
>  	// for MADV_COLLAPSE, allow any none-page or zero-page PTEs.
>  	if (!cc->is_khugepaged)
>  		return HPAGE_PMD_NR;
> -	// For all other cases repect the user defined maximum.
> -	return khugepaged_max_ptes_none;
> +	// for PMD collapse, respect the user defined maximum.
> +	if (is_pmd_order(order))
> +		return max_ptes_none;
> +	/* Zero/non-present collapse disabled. */
> +	if (!max_ptes_none)
> +		return 0;
> +	// for mTHP collapse with the sysctl value set to KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT,
> +	// scale the maximum number of PTEs to the order of the collapse.
> +	if (max_ptes_none == KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT)
> +		return (1 << order) - 1;
> +
> +	// We currently only support max_ptes_none values of 0 or KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT.
> +	// Emit a warning and return -EINVAL.
> +	pr_warn_once("mTHP collapse only supports max_ptes_none values of 0 or %u\n",
> +		      KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT);
> +	return -EINVAL;
>  }
>  
>  /**
>   * collapse_max_ptes_shared - Calculate maximum allowed PTEs that map shared
>   * anonymous pages for the given collapse operation.
>   * @cc: The collapse control struct
> + * @order: The folio order being collapsed to
>   *
>   * Return: Maximum number of PTEs that map shared anonymous pages for the
>   * collapse operation
>   */
> -static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_shared(struct collapse_control *cc)
> +static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_shared(struct collapse_control *cc,
> +		unsigned int order)
>  {
>  	// for MADV_COLLAPSE, do not restrict the number of PTEs that map shared
>  	// anonymous pages.
>  	if (!cc->is_khugepaged)
>  		return HPAGE_PMD_NR;
> +	// for mTHP collapse do not allow collapsing anonymous memory pages that
> +	// are shared between processes.
> +	if (!is_pmd_order(order))
> +		return 0;
> +	// for PMD collapse, respect the user defined maximum.
>  	return khugepaged_max_ptes_shared;
>  }
>  
> @@ -391,16 +415,22 @@ static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_shared(struct collapse_control *cc)
>   * collapse_max_ptes_swap - Calculate the maximum allowed non-present PTEs or the
>   * maximum allowed non-present pagecache entries for the given collapse operation.
>   * @cc: The collapse control struct
> + * @order: The folio order being collapsed to
>   *
>   * Return: Maximum number of non-present PTEs or the maximum allowed non-present
>   * pagecache entries for the collapse operation.
>   */
> -static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_swap(struct collapse_control *cc)
> +static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_swap(struct collapse_control *cc,
> +		unsigned int order)
>  {
>  	// for MADV_COLLAPSE, do not restrict the number PTEs entries or
>  	// pagecache entries that are non-present.
>  	if (!cc->is_khugepaged)
>  		return HPAGE_PMD_NR;
> +	// for mTHP collapse do not allow any non-present PTEs or pagecache entries.
> +	if (!is_pmd_order(order))
> +		return 0;
> +	// for PMD collapse, respect the user defined maximum.
>  	return khugepaged_max_ptes_swap;
>  }
>  
> @@ -594,18 +624,22 @@ static void release_pte_pages(pte_t *pte, pte_t *_pte,
>  
>  static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_isolate(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  		unsigned long start_addr, pte_t *pte, struct collapse_control *cc,
> -		struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
> +		unsigned int order, struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>  {
> +	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
>  	struct page *page = NULL;
>  	struct folio *folio = NULL;
>  	unsigned long addr = start_addr;
>  	pte_t *_pte;
>  	int none_or_zero = 0, shared = 0, referenced = 0;
>  	enum scan_result result = SCAN_FAIL;
> -	unsigned int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma);
> -	unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc);
> +	int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma, order);
> +	unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc, order);
> +
> +	if (max_ptes_none < 0)
> +		return SCAN_INVALID_PTES_NONE;
>  
> -	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + HPAGE_PMD_NR;
> +	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + nr_pages;
>  	     _pte++, addr += PAGE_SIZE) {
>  		pte_t pteval = ptep_get(_pte);
>  		if (pte_none_or_zero(pteval)) {
> @@ -738,18 +772,18 @@ static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_isolate(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  }
>  
>  static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded(pte_t *pte,
> -						struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> -						unsigned long address,
> -						spinlock_t *ptl,
> -						struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
> +		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long address,
> +		spinlock_t *ptl, unsigned int order,
> +		struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>  {
> -	unsigned long end = address + HPAGE_PMD_SIZE;
> +	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
> +	unsigned long end = address + (PAGE_SIZE << order);
>  	struct folio *src, *tmp;
>  	pte_t pteval;
>  	pte_t *_pte;
>  	unsigned int nr_ptes;
>  
> -	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + HPAGE_PMD_NR; _pte += nr_ptes,
> +	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + nr_pages; _pte += nr_ptes,
>  	     address += nr_ptes * PAGE_SIZE) {
>  		nr_ptes = 1;
>  		pteval = ptep_get(_pte);
> @@ -802,11 +836,10 @@ static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded(pte_t *pte,
>  }
>  
>  static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte_t *pte,
> -					     pmd_t *pmd,
> -					     pmd_t orig_pmd,
> -					     struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> -					     struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
> +		pmd_t *pmd, pmd_t orig_pmd, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> +		unsigned int order, struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>  {
> +	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
>  	spinlock_t *pmd_ptl;
>  
>  	/*
> @@ -822,7 +855,7 @@ static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte_t *pte,
>  	 * Release both raw and compound pages isolated
>  	 * in __collapse_huge_page_isolate.
>  	 */
> -	release_pte_pages(pte, pte + HPAGE_PMD_NR, compound_pagelist);
> +	release_pte_pages(pte, pte + nr_pages, compound_pagelist);
>  }
>  
>  /*
> @@ -842,16 +875,17 @@ static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte_t *pte,
>   */
>  static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte_t *pte, struct folio *folio,
>  		pmd_t *pmd, pmd_t orig_pmd, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> -		unsigned long address, spinlock_t *ptl,
> +		unsigned long address, spinlock_t *ptl, unsigned int order,
>  		struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>  {
> +	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
>  	unsigned int i;
>  	enum scan_result result = SCAN_SUCCEED;
>  
>  	/*
>  	 * Copying pages' contents is subject to memory poison at any iteration.
>  	 */
> -	for (i = 0; i < HPAGE_PMD_NR; i++) {
> +	for (i = 0; i < nr_pages; i++) {
>  		pte_t pteval = ptep_get(pte + i);
>  		struct page *page = folio_page(folio, i);
>  		unsigned long src_addr = address + i * PAGE_SIZE;
> @@ -870,10 +904,10 @@ static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte_t *pte, struct folio *foli
>  
>  	if (likely(result == SCAN_SUCCEED))
>  		__collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded(pte, vma, address, ptl,
> -						    compound_pagelist);
> +						    order, compound_pagelist);
>  	else
>  		__collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte, pmd, orig_pmd, vma,
> -						 compound_pagelist);
> +						 order, compound_pagelist);
>  
>  	return result;
>  }
> @@ -1044,12 +1078,12 @@ static enum scan_result check_pmd_still_valid(struct mm_struct *mm,
>   * Returns result: if not SCAN_SUCCEED, mmap_lock has been released.
>   */


Can you add a comment above __collapse_huge_page_swapin function that says its only
done for PMD size only? Something like:

For PMD-order collapse this faults in any swap entries it finds. For mTHP
orders the function bails on the first swap entry with SCAN_EXCEED_SWAP_PTE,
because faulting pages back in during a lower-order collapse could re-populate
PTEs that push a later scan over the threshold for a higher-order collapse.


>  static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_swapin(struct mm_struct *mm,
> -		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start_addr, pmd_t *pmd,
> -		int referenced)
> +		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start_addr,
> +		pmd_t *pmd, int referenced, unsigned int order)
>  {
>  	int swapped_in = 0;
>  	vm_fault_t ret = 0;
> -	unsigned long addr, end = start_addr + (HPAGE_PMD_NR * PAGE_SIZE);
> +	unsigned long addr, end = start_addr + (PAGE_SIZE << order);
>  	enum scan_result result;
>  	pte_t *pte = NULL;
>  	spinlock_t *ptl;
> @@ -1081,6 +1115,19 @@ static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_swapin(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  		    pte_present(vmf.orig_pte))
>  			continue;
>  
> +		/*
> +		 * TODO: Support swapin without leading to further mTHP
> +		 * collapses. Currently bringing in new pages via swapin may
> +		 * cause a future higher order collapse on a rescan of the same
> +		 * range.
> +		 */
> +		if (!is_pmd_order(order)) {
> +			pte_unmap(pte);
> +			mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> +			result = SCAN_EXCEED_SWAP_PTE;
> +			goto out;
> +		}
> +
>  		vmf.pte = pte;
>  		vmf.ptl = ptl;
>  		ret = do_swap_page(&vmf);
> @@ -1200,7 +1247,7 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  		 * that case.  Continuing to collapse causes inconsistency.
>  		 */
>  		result = __collapse_huge_page_swapin(mm, vma, address, pmd,
> -						     referenced);
> +						     referenced, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>  		if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
>  			goto out_nolock;
>  	}
> @@ -1248,6 +1295,7 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  	pte = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, &_pmd, address, &pte_ptl);
>  	if (pte) {
>  		result = __collapse_huge_page_isolate(vma, address, pte, cc,
> +						      HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
>  						      &compound_pagelist);
>  		spin_unlock(pte_ptl);
>  	} else {
> @@ -1278,6 +1326,7 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  
>  	result = __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte, folio, pmd, _pmd,
>  					   vma, address, pte_ptl,
> +					   HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
>  					   &compound_pagelist);
>  	pte_unmap(pte);
>  	if (unlikely(result != SCAN_SUCCEED))
> @@ -1313,9 +1362,9 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_scan_pmd(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start_addr,
>  		bool *lock_dropped, struct collapse_control *cc)
>  {
> -	const unsigned int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma);
> -	const unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc);
> -	const unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc);
> +	const int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> +	const unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> +	const unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>  	pmd_t *pmd;
>  	pte_t *pte, *_pte;
>  	int none_or_zero = 0, shared = 0, referenced = 0;
> @@ -2369,8 +2418,8 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_scan_file(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  		unsigned long addr, struct file *file, pgoff_t start,
>  		struct collapse_control *cc)
>  {
> -	const unsigned int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, NULL);
> -	const unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc);
> +	const int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, NULL, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> +	const unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>  	struct folio *folio = NULL;
>  	struct address_space *mapping = file->f_mapping;
>  	XA_STATE(xas, &mapping->i_pages, start);
> -- 
> 2.54.0
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-18 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-11 18:58 [PATCH mm-unstable v17 00/14] khugepaged: mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 01/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for " Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 02/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-05-18 11:55   ` Usama Arif
2026-05-18 14:49     ` Lance Yang
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 03/14] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-05-12  4:44   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-12  7:29   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-12  7:42   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-14  3:10     ` Wei Yang
2026-05-18 13:16       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-18 19:32         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-18 13:49   ` Usama Arif [this message]
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 05/14] mm/khugepaged: require collapse_huge_page to enter/exit with the lock dropped Nico Pache
2026-05-12  7:42   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-18 17:00   ` Usama Arif
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 07/14] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 08/14] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 09/14] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 10/14] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-12 15:44   ` Wei Yang
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 12/14] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 13/14] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 14/14] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-11 21:04 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 00/14] khugepaged: mTHP support Andrew Morton
2026-05-18 12:50 ` Wei Yang

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