From: Yiannis Nikolakopoulos <yiannis.nikolakop@gmail.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
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Yiannis Nikolakopoulos <Yiannis@zptcorp.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC][RFC PATCH v4 00/27] Private Memory Nodes (w/ Compressed RAM)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 00:21:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <21B8D62E-38AB-4FA5-8942-DA4417A7E7E9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260222084842.1824063-1-gourry@gourry.net>
> On 22 Feb 2026, at 09:48, Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> wrote:
>
> Topic type: MM
>
> Presenter: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
>
> This series introduces N_MEMORY_PRIVATE, a NUMA node state for memory
> managed by the buddy allocator but excluded from normal allocations.
>
> I present it with an end-to-end Compressed RAM service (mm/cram.c)
> that would otherwise not be possible (or would be considerably more
> difficult, be device-specific, and add to the ZONE_DEVICE boondoggle).
>
>
> TL;DR
> ===
>
> N_MEMORY_PRIVATE is all about isolating NUMA nodes and then punching
> explicit holes in that isolation to do useful things we couldn't do
> before without re-implementing entire portions of mm/ in a driver.
>
>
> /* This is my memory. There are many like it, but this one is mine. */
> rc = add_private_memory_driver_managed(nid, start, size, name, flags,
> online_type, private_context);
>
> page = alloc_pages_node(nid, __GFP_PRIVATE, 0);
>
> /* Ok but I want to do something useful with it */
> static const struct node_private_ops ops = {
> .migrate_to = my_migrate_to,
> .folio_migrate = my_folio_migrate,
> .flags = NP_OPS_MIGRATION | NP_OPS_MEMPOLICY,
> };
> node_private_set_ops(nid, &ops);
>
> /* And now I can use mempolicy with my memory */
> buf = mmap(...);
> mbind(buf, len, mode, private_node, ...);
> buf[0] = 0xdeadbeef; /* Faults onto private node */
>
> /* And to be clear, no one else gets my memory */
> buf2 = malloc(4096); /* Standard allocation */
> buf2[0] = 0xdeadbeef; /* Can never land on private node */
>
> /* But i can choose to migrate it to the private node */
> move_pages(0, 1, &buf, &private_node, NULL, ...);
>
> /* And more fun things like this */
>
>
> Patchwork
> ===
> A fully working branch based on cxl/next can be found here:
> https://github.com/gourryinverse/linux/tree/private_compression
>
> A QEMU device which can inject high/low interrupts can be found here:
> https://github.com/gourryinverse/qemu/tree/compressed_cxl_clean
>
> The additional patches on these branches are CXL and DAX driver
> housecleaning only tangentially relevant to this RFC, so i've
> omitted them for the sake of trying to keep it somewhat clean
> here. Those patches should (hopefully) be going upstream anyway.
>
> Patches 1-22: Core Private Node Infrastructure
>
> Patch 1: Introduce N_MEMORY_PRIVATE scaffolding
> Patch 2: Introduce __GFP_PRIVATE
> Patch 3: Apply allocation isolation mechanisms
> Patch 4: Add N_MEMORY nodes to private fallback lists
> Patches 5-9: Filter operations not yet supported
> Patch 10: free_folio callback
> Patch 11: split_folio callback
> Patches 12-20: mm/ service opt-ins:
> Migration, Mempolicy, Demotion, Write Protect,
> Reclaim, OOM, NUMA Balancing, Compaction,
> LongTerm Pinning
> Patch 21: memory_failure callback
> Patch 22: Memory hotplug plumbing for private nodes
>
> Patch 23: mm/cram -- Compressed RAM Management
>
> Patches 24-27: CXL Driver examples
> Sysram Regions with Private node support
> Basic Driver Example: (MIGRATION | MEMPOLICY)
> Compression Driver Example (Generic)
>
Hi,
As I think this is about to be discussed in the conference, I thought
to share some high level comments.
I have tested this for some time on a device with compression (after some
necessary fixes for CXL RCD to work, that Greg helped me with).
Overall, the isolation property that this provides is something I deem necessary
for this technology. Others are better placed to judge the MM plumbing
itself, but I wanted to say that this functionality is an important piece of the puzzle
from the device/use-case side.
For cram itself, as it is in this RFC, I think there is still performance and
value left on the table (as noted in the description), but I fully understand Gregory’s
premise in approaching it this way.
<snip>
>
> Future CRAM : Loosening the read-only constraint
> ===
>
> The read-only model is safe but conservative. For workloads where
> compressed pages are occasionally written, the promotion fault adds
> latency. A future optimization could allow a tunable fraction of
> compressed pages to be mapped writable, accepting some risk of
> write-driven decompression in exchange for lower overhead.
>
> The private node ops make this straightforward:
>
> - Adjust fixup_migration_pte to selectively skip
> write-protection.
> - Use the backpressure system to either revoke writable mappings,
> deny additional demotions, or evict when device pressure rises.
I have some quick hacks playing with these ideas but I haven’t had the time
to test it thoroughly and get to something robust yet. I saw in another thread
that there is a follow up cooking which looks interesting.
Thanks Greg for pushing this, and I’m happy to test more on HW in our lab.
Best,
/Yiannis
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2026-02-22 8:48 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC][RFC PATCH v4 00/27] Private Memory Nodes (w/ Compressed RAM) Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/27] numa: introduce N_MEMORY_PRIVATE node state Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/27] mm,cpuset: gate allocations from N_MEMORY_PRIVATE behind __GFP_PRIVATE Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/27] mm/page_alloc: add numa_zone_allowed() and wire it up Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/27] mm/page_alloc: Add private node handling to build_zonelists Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/27] mm: introduce folio_is_private_managed() unified predicate Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/27] mm/mlock: skip mlock for managed-memory folios Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/27] mm/madvise: skip madvise " Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/27] mm/ksm: skip KSM " Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/27] mm/khugepaged: skip private node folios when trying to collapse Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/27] mm/swap: add free_folio callback for folio release cleanup Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/27] mm/huge_memory.c: add private node folio split notification callback Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/27] mm/migrate: NP_OPS_MIGRATION - support private node user migration Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/27] mm/mempolicy: NP_OPS_MEMPOLICY - support private node mempolicy Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/27] mm/memory-tiers: NP_OPS_DEMOTION - support private node demotion Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/27] mm/mprotect: NP_OPS_PROTECT_WRITE - gate PTE/PMD write-upgrades Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/27] mm: NP_OPS_RECLAIM - private node reclaim participation Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 17/27] mm/oom: NP_OPS_OOM_ELIGIBLE - private node OOM participation Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 18/27] mm/memory: NP_OPS_NUMA_BALANCING - private node NUMA balancing Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 19/27] mm/compaction: NP_OPS_COMPACTION - private node compaction support Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 20/27] mm/gup: NP_OPS_LONGTERM_PIN - private node longterm pin support Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 21/27] mm/memory-failure: add memory_failure callback to node_private_ops Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 22/27] mm/memory_hotplug: add add_private_memory_driver_managed() Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 23/27] mm/cram: add compressed ram memory management subsystem Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 24/27] cxl/core: Add cxl_sysram region type Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 25/27] cxl/core: Add private node support to cxl_sysram Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 26/27] cxl: add cxl_mempolicy sample PCI driver Gregory Price
2026-02-22 8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 27/27] cxl: add cxl_compression " Gregory Price
2026-02-23 13:07 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC][RFC PATCH v4 00/27] Private Memory Nodes (w/ Compressed RAM) David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 14:54 ` Gregory Price
2026-02-23 16:08 ` Gregory Price
2026-03-17 13:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-19 14:29 ` Gregory Price
2026-02-24 6:19 ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-24 15:17 ` Gregory Price
2026-02-24 16:54 ` Gregory Price
2026-02-25 22:21 ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-25 23:58 ` Gregory Price
2026-02-26 3:27 ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-26 5:54 ` Gregory Price
2026-02-26 22:49 ` Gregory Price
2026-03-03 20:36 ` Gregory Price
2026-02-25 12:40 ` Alejandro Lucero Palau
2026-02-25 14:43 ` Gregory Price
2026-05-06 14:43 ` Gregory Price
2026-03-17 13:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-19 15:09 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-13 13:11 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 17:05 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-15 9:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15 15:17 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-15 19:47 ` Frank van der Linden
2026-04-16 1:24 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-17 9:50 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-17 15:07 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-16 20:23 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-17 9:39 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-17 9:37 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-17 14:45 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-20 2:56 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-27 12:32 ` Arun George
2026-04-27 22:28 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-29 6:15 ` Arun George/Arun George
2026-04-29 13:42 ` Gregory Price
2026-05-04 13:08 ` Arun George/Arun George
2026-05-05 7:45 ` Gregory Price
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