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From: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
To: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, 	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] rv/rtapp/sleep: Update nanosleep rule
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2026 14:29:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <72909c5431d8a6564aaab10056b9c59d5750d956.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7ceb5c6263ee8f43a2676acae669cf486b0d903.1781852967.git.namcao@linutronix.de>

On Fri, 2026-06-19 at 09:21 +0200, Nam Cao wrote:
> CLOCK_REALTIME is the only clock that often is misused in real-time
> applications. The other clocks either are safe for real-time uses
> (CLOCK_TAI, CLOCK_MONOTONIC, CLOCK_BOOTTIME) or are unlikely to be misused
> (CLOCK_AUX, CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID).
> 
> Update the monitor to only warn about CLOCK_REALTIME.
> 
> While at it, update the out-of-sync documentation.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>

Looks good, thanks.

Reviewed-by: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>

> ---
>  Documentation/trace/rv/monitor_rtapp.rst  | 17 +++++---
>  kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/sleep.c    | 12 ++----
>  kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/sleep.h    | 52 +++++++++++------------
>  tools/verification/models/rtapp/sleep.ltl |  2 +-
>  4 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 44 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/trace/rv/monitor_rtapp.rst
> b/Documentation/trace/rv/monitor_rtapp.rst
> index 01656bf7080a..570be67a8f3b 100644
> --- a/Documentation/trace/rv/monitor_rtapp.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/trace/rv/monitor_rtapp.rst
> @@ -51,12 +51,13 @@ The `sleep` monitor reports real-time threads sleeping in
> a manner that may
>  cause undesirable latency. Real-time applications should only put a real-time
>  thread to sleep for one of the following reasons:
>  
> -  - Cyclic work: real-time thread sleeps waiting for the next cycle. For this
> -    case, only the `clock_nanosleep` syscall should be used with
> `TIMER_ABSTIME`
> -    (to avoid time drift) and `CLOCK_MONOTONIC` (to avoid the clock being
> -    changed). No other method is safe for real-time. For example, threads
> -    waiting for timerfd can be woken by softirq which provides no real-time
> -    guarantee.
> +  - Cyclic work: real-time thread sleeps waiting for the next
> +    cycle. For this case, only the `clock_nanosleep` syscall should be
> +    used with `TIMER_ABSTIME` (to avoid time drift). Additionally,
> +    `CLOCK_REALTIME` should not be used (to avoid the clock being
> +    changed). No other method is safe for real-time. For example,
> +    threads waiting for timerfd can be woken by softirq which provides
> +    no real-time guarantee.
>    - Real-time thread waiting for something to happen (e.g. another thread
>      releasing shared resources, or a completion signal from another thread).
> In
>      this case, only futexes (FUTEX_LOCK_PI, FUTEX_LOCK_PI2 or one of
> @@ -99,14 +100,16 @@ The monitor's specification is::
>  
>    RT_VALID_SLEEP_REASON = FUTEX_WAIT
>                         or RT_FRIENDLY_NANOSLEEP
> +                       or EPOLL_WAIT
>  
>    RT_FRIENDLY_NANOSLEEP = CLOCK_NANOSLEEP
>                        and NANOSLEEP_TIMER_ABSTIME
> -                      and NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_MONOTONIC
> +                      and not NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_REALTIME
>  
>    RT_FRIENDLY_WAKE = WOKEN_BY_EQUAL_OR_HIGHER_PRIO
>                    or WOKEN_BY_HARDIRQ
>                    or WOKEN_BY_NMI
> +                  or ABORT_SLEEP
>                    or KTHREAD_SHOULD_STOP
>  
>    ALLOWLIST = BLOCK_ON_RT_MUTEX
> diff --git a/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/sleep.c
> b/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/sleep.c
> index d6b677fab8f8..638be7d8747f 100644
> --- a/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/sleep.c
> +++ b/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/sleep.c
> @@ -44,8 +44,7 @@ static void ltl_atoms_init(struct task_struct *task, struct
> ltl_monitor *mon, bo
>  
>  	if (task_creation) {
>  		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_KTHREAD_SHOULD_STOP, false);
> -		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_MONOTONIC, false);
> -		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_TAI, false);
> +		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_REALTIME, false);
>  		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_TIMER_ABSTIME, false);
>  		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_CLOCK_NANOSLEEP, false);
>  		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_FUTEX_WAIT, false);
> @@ -60,8 +59,7 @@ static void ltl_atoms_init(struct task_struct *task, struct
> ltl_monitor *mon, bo
>  		/* kernel tasks do not do syscall */
>  		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_FUTEX_WAIT, false);
>  		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_FUTEX_LOCK_PI, false);
> -		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_MONOTONIC, false);
> -		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_TAI, false);
> +		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_REALTIME, false);
>  		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_TIMER_ABSTIME, false);
>  		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_CLOCK_NANOSLEEP, false);
>  		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_EPOLL_WAIT, false);
> @@ -136,8 +134,7 @@ static void handle_sys_enter(void *data, struct pt_regs
> *regs, long id)
>  	case __NR_clock_nanosleep_time64:
>  #endif
>  		syscall_get_arguments(current, regs, args);
> -		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_MONOTONIC, args[0] ==
> CLOCK_MONOTONIC);
> -		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_TAI, args[0] ==
> CLOCK_TAI);
> +		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_REALTIME, args[0] ==
> CLOCK_REALTIME);
>  		ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_TIMER_ABSTIME, args[1] ==
> TIMER_ABSTIME);
>  		ltl_atom_update(current, LTL_CLOCK_NANOSLEEP, true);
>  		break;
> @@ -178,8 +175,7 @@ static void handle_sys_exit(void *data, struct pt_regs
> *regs, long ret)
>  
>  	ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_FUTEX_LOCK_PI, false);
>  	ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_FUTEX_WAIT, false);
> -	ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_MONOTONIC, false);
> -	ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_TAI, false);
> +	ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_REALTIME, false);
>  	ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_NANOSLEEP_TIMER_ABSTIME, false);
>  	ltl_atom_set(mon, LTL_EPOLL_WAIT, false);
>  	ltl_atom_update(current, LTL_CLOCK_NANOSLEEP, false);
> diff --git a/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/sleep.h
> b/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/sleep.h
> index 403dc2852c52..2fe2ec7edae8 100644
> --- a/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/sleep.h
> +++ b/kernel/trace/rv/monitors/sleep/sleep.h
> @@ -20,8 +20,7 @@ enum ltl_atom {
>  	LTL_FUTEX_WAIT,
>  	LTL_KERNEL_THREAD,
>  	LTL_KTHREAD_SHOULD_STOP,
> -	LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_MONOTONIC,
> -	LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_TAI,
> +	LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_REALTIME,
>  	LTL_NANOSLEEP_TIMER_ABSTIME,
>  	LTL_RT,
>  	LTL_SCHEDULE_IN,
> @@ -46,8 +45,7 @@ static const char *ltl_atom_str(enum ltl_atom atom)
>  		"fu_wa",
>  		"ker_th",
>  		"kth_sh_st",
> -		"na_cl_mo",
> -		"na_cl_ta",
> +		"na_cl_re",
>  		"na_ti_ab",
>  		"rt",
>  		"sch_in",
> @@ -87,8 +85,7 @@ static void ltl_start(struct task_struct *task, struct
> ltl_monitor *mon)
>  	bool schedule_in = test_bit(LTL_SCHEDULE_IN, mon->atoms);
>  	bool rt = test_bit(LTL_RT, mon->atoms);
>  	bool nanosleep_timer_abstime = test_bit(LTL_NANOSLEEP_TIMER_ABSTIME,
> mon->atoms);
> -	bool nanosleep_clock_tai = test_bit(LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_TAI, mon-
> >atoms);
> -	bool nanosleep_clock_monotonic =
> test_bit(LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_MONOTONIC, mon->atoms);
> +	bool nanosleep_clock_realtime =
> test_bit(LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_REALTIME, mon->atoms);
>  	bool kthread_should_stop = test_bit(LTL_KTHREAD_SHOULD_STOP, mon-
> >atoms);
>  	bool kernel_thread = test_bit(LTL_KERNEL_THREAD, mon->atoms);
>  	bool futex_wait = test_bit(LTL_FUTEX_WAIT, mon->atoms);
> @@ -97,17 +94,17 @@ static void ltl_start(struct task_struct *task, struct
> ltl_monitor *mon)
>  	bool clock_nanosleep = test_bit(LTL_CLOCK_NANOSLEEP, mon->atoms);
>  	bool block_on_rt_mutex = test_bit(LTL_BLOCK_ON_RT_MUTEX, mon->atoms);
>  	bool abort_sleep = test_bit(LTL_ABORT_SLEEP, mon->atoms);
> -	bool val42 = task_is_rcu || task_is_migration;
> -	bool val43 = futex_lock_pi || val42;
> -	bool val5 = block_on_rt_mutex || val43;
> -	bool val34 = abort_sleep || kthread_should_stop;
> -	bool val35 = woken_by_nmi || val34;
> -	bool val36 = woken_by_hardirq || val35;
> -	bool val14 = woken_by_equal_or_higher_prio || val36;
> +	bool val41 = task_is_rcu || task_is_migration;
> +	bool val42 = futex_lock_pi || val41;
> +	bool val5 = block_on_rt_mutex || val42;
> +	bool val33 = abort_sleep || kthread_should_stop;
> +	bool val34 = woken_by_nmi || val33;
> +	bool val35 = woken_by_hardirq || val34;
> +	bool val14 = woken_by_equal_or_higher_prio || val35;
>  	bool val13 = !schedule_in;
> -	bool val26 = nanosleep_clock_monotonic || nanosleep_clock_tai;
> -	bool val27 = nanosleep_timer_abstime && val26;
> -	bool val18 = clock_nanosleep && val27;
> +	bool val25 = !nanosleep_clock_realtime;
> +	bool val26 = nanosleep_timer_abstime && val25;
> +	bool val18 = clock_nanosleep && val26;
>  	bool val20 = val18 || epoll_wait;
>  	bool val9 = futex_wait || val20;
>  	bool val11 = val9 || kernel_thread;
> @@ -138,8 +135,7 @@ ltl_possible_next_states(struct ltl_monitor *mon, unsigned
> int state, unsigned l
>  	bool schedule_in = test_bit(LTL_SCHEDULE_IN, mon->atoms);
>  	bool rt = test_bit(LTL_RT, mon->atoms);
>  	bool nanosleep_timer_abstime = test_bit(LTL_NANOSLEEP_TIMER_ABSTIME,
> mon->atoms);
> -	bool nanosleep_clock_tai = test_bit(LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_TAI, mon-
> >atoms);
> -	bool nanosleep_clock_monotonic =
> test_bit(LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_MONOTONIC, mon->atoms);
> +	bool nanosleep_clock_realtime =
> test_bit(LTL_NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_REALTIME, mon->atoms);
>  	bool kthread_should_stop = test_bit(LTL_KTHREAD_SHOULD_STOP, mon-
> >atoms);
>  	bool kernel_thread = test_bit(LTL_KERNEL_THREAD, mon->atoms);
>  	bool futex_wait = test_bit(LTL_FUTEX_WAIT, mon->atoms);
> @@ -148,17 +144,17 @@ ltl_possible_next_states(struct ltl_monitor *mon,
> unsigned int state, unsigned l
>  	bool clock_nanosleep = test_bit(LTL_CLOCK_NANOSLEEP, mon->atoms);
>  	bool block_on_rt_mutex = test_bit(LTL_BLOCK_ON_RT_MUTEX, mon->atoms);
>  	bool abort_sleep = test_bit(LTL_ABORT_SLEEP, mon->atoms);
> -	bool val42 = task_is_rcu || task_is_migration;
> -	bool val43 = futex_lock_pi || val42;
> -	bool val5 = block_on_rt_mutex || val43;
> -	bool val34 = abort_sleep || kthread_should_stop;
> -	bool val35 = woken_by_nmi || val34;
> -	bool val36 = woken_by_hardirq || val35;
> -	bool val14 = woken_by_equal_or_higher_prio || val36;
> +	bool val41 = task_is_rcu || task_is_migration;
> +	bool val42 = futex_lock_pi || val41;
> +	bool val5 = block_on_rt_mutex || val42;
> +	bool val33 = abort_sleep || kthread_should_stop;
> +	bool val34 = woken_by_nmi || val33;
> +	bool val35 = woken_by_hardirq || val34;
> +	bool val14 = woken_by_equal_or_higher_prio || val35;
>  	bool val13 = !schedule_in;
> -	bool val26 = nanosleep_clock_monotonic || nanosleep_clock_tai;
> -	bool val27 = nanosleep_timer_abstime && val26;
> -	bool val18 = clock_nanosleep && val27;
> +	bool val25 = !nanosleep_clock_realtime;
> +	bool val26 = nanosleep_timer_abstime && val25;
> +	bool val18 = clock_nanosleep && val26;
>  	bool val20 = val18 || epoll_wait;
>  	bool val9 = futex_wait || val20;
>  	bool val11 = val9 || kernel_thread;
> diff --git a/tools/verification/models/rtapp/sleep.ltl
> b/tools/verification/models/rtapp/sleep.ltl
> index 464c84b9df87..5923e58d7810 100644
> --- a/tools/verification/models/rtapp/sleep.ltl
> +++ b/tools/verification/models/rtapp/sleep.ltl
> @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ RT_VALID_SLEEP_REASON = FUTEX_WAIT
>  
>  RT_FRIENDLY_NANOSLEEP = CLOCK_NANOSLEEP
>                      and NANOSLEEP_TIMER_ABSTIME
> -                    and (NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_MONOTONIC or NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_TAI)
> +                    and not NANOSLEEP_CLOCK_REALTIME
>  
>  RT_FRIENDLY_WAKE = WOKEN_BY_EQUAL_OR_HIGHER_PRIO
>                  or WOKEN_BY_HARDIRQ


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-01 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-19  7:21 [PATCH v2 0/4] rv: rtapp monitor update Nam Cao
2026-06-19  7:21 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] rv/rtapp/sleep: Make the error more informative for user Nam Cao
2026-07-01 12:26   ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-07-01 12:34     ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-06-19  7:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] rv/rtapp/sleep: Update nanosleep rule Nam Cao
2026-07-01 12:29   ` Gabriele Monaco [this message]
2026-06-19  7:21 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] rv/rtapp/sleep: Stop monitoring kernel threads Nam Cao
2026-07-01 13:02   ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-06-19  7:21 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] rv/rtapp: Add wakeup monitor Nam Cao
2026-07-01 13:11   ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-07-02  7:25     ` Nam Cao
2026-07-02 12:12       ` Gabriele Monaco

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