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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: SUVONOV BUNYOD <b.suvonov@sjtu.edu.cn>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org,  mhiramat@kernel.org, david@kernel.org,
	mhocko@kernel.org,  zhengqi arch <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	ljs@kernel.org,
	 mathieu desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmscan: add balance_pgdat begin/end tracepoints
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 19:15:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aerSNntuPLdGWts6@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1868971658.1970916.1776991584726.JavaMail.zimbra@sjtu.edu.cn>

On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 08:46:24AM +0800, SUVONOV BUNYOD wrote:
> Thank you for reviewing Shakeel,
> 
> > Do we need to trace highest_zoneidx at the end? Can it change within
> > balance_pgdat()?
> 
> highest_zoneidx does not change within a balance_pgdat() invocation. It
> is passed in as an argument and remains the classzone bound used for the
> balancing checks throughout the function.
> 
> I kept highest_zoneidx in the end tracepoint to make the outcome event
> self-contained. In principle, begin/end correlation is possible, but
> under sustained memory pressure kswapd reclaim can be frequent enough
> that consumers may prefer to analyze end events directly, and any
> dependence on matching begin/end becomes less convenient and less robust
> in the presence of filtering or dropped trace records.
> 
> Since nr_reclaimed and the final order are only known at the end, having
> highest_zoneidx there allows end-only analysis without correlating with
> the begin event.
> 
> For example, it lets users answer questions like:
> - this pass reclaimed too much or too little memory; what highest_zoneidx
> did that result correspond to?
> - how much reclaim was done when balancing up to ZONE_NORMAL vs other
> classzone bounds?
> - when highest_zoneidx == ZONE_NORMAL, how often did reclaim finish at
> order=0?
> 
> So it is there because it provides context for the end-of-reclaim result.
> Do you think this is sufficient justification? If not, then I can drop it
> from the end tracepoint in v2.

I think it is ok but let's add this reasoning in the commit message.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-24  2:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-23 10:37 [PATCH] mm/vmscan: add balance_pgdat begin/end tracepoints Bunyod Suvonov
2026-04-23 17:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-04-24  0:46   ` SUVONOV BUNYOD
2026-04-24  2:15     ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2026-04-24  3:14 ` [PATCH v2] " Bunyod Suvonov
2026-04-24  3:16   ` Shakeel Butt

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