From: Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: sashiko-bot@kernel.org, sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/3] tracing: Fix subbuf resize races with trace_pipe_raw readers
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2026 09:26:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao1Rn8ZKr5XafWRZ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260824105315.27377f30@gandalf.local.home>
On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 10:53:15AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 21:09:05 +0100
> Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com> wrote:
>
> > > > [Severity: High]
> > > > If ring_buffer_read_page() returns -EAGAIN because the subbuffer order was
> > > > updated but cpu_buffer->reader_page->order hasn't been updated yet, this
> > > > branches back to the again label.
> > > >
> > > > Since the loop does not yield the CPU or call cond_resched(), could this cause
> > > > a hard lockup if the reader and the resize thread are on the same CPU?
> > >
> > > Hmm, this looks legit. We should at least have a way to break out if it
> > > loops too many times.
> >
> > Can this happen only on !CONFIG_PREEMPT systems?
>
> It can happen with RT tasks as they don't yield. If this task is of higher
> priority than the one resizing, then it will loop forever even with a
> cond_resched().
Ha yes of course!
>
> >
> > I can add a cond_resched() here though, I believe that would make sense: if an
> > order modification is pending, writing is disabled anyway and we are about to
> > loose the stored events.
>
> For RT tasks, cond_resched() wouldn't be enough.
>
> >
> > Additionally I can reduce the window where buffer::subbuf_order differs from the
> > reader page order by adding an "order" argument to __rb_allocate_pages() and
> > only set buffer::subbuf_order later in ring_buffer_subbuf_order_set().
>
> I'm wondering if we even care if data_page->order != cpu_buffer->reader_page->order
> and should change it to being a force copy instead.
>
> If the reader_page is bigger than the dpage, and only copy what the dpage
> can hold. It would also update the read value of the reader_page which
> would allow another copy to get the rest. If the data page is bigger, then
> just copy everything.
>
> It's not like this will happen often.
>
> -- Steve
That sounds interesting... that would get rid of the -EAGAIN. Let me try.
Do you think it is still worth to reduce the window of discrepency between
buffer->subbuf_order and buffer_page->order?
--
Vincent
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-25 8:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-17 13:47 [PATCH v7 0/3] ring-buffer: Fixes for subbuf resizing and persistent buffers Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-17 13:47 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] tracing: Fix subbuf resize races with trace_pipe_raw readers Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-17 14:08 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-22 15:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-23 20:09 ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-24 14:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-25 8:26 ` Vincent Donnefort [this message]
2026-08-25 12:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-25 12:52 ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-25 14:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-17 13:47 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] ring-buffer: Cap static ring buffer nr_pages Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-17 14:03 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 13:47 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] ring-buffer: Prevent truncation of nr_pages / nr_subbufs Vincent Donnefort
2026-08-17 13:59 ` sashiko-bot
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