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From: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
To: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>, Can Sar <csar@stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] Making UML Single Threader
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:37:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511142037.56022.blaisorblade@yahoo.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lkzrwcs3.fsf@amaterasu.srvr.nix>

On Monday 14 November 2005 14:59, Nix wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Jeff Dike prattled cheerily:
> > On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 01:09:06AM -0600, Rob Landley wrote:
> >> > So I don't care about systemcall interception or anything like that,
> >>
> >> *blink*  *blink*
> >>
> >> Ok, you want user mode linux, but you don't want it to actually run user
> >> processes, nor do want it to be able to intercept system calls.
> >>
> >> Um...  What's left?
> >
> > Only all of Linux.  It so happens that I want exactly the same thing for
> > libUML, except I haven't had time to do anything about it.

> I've long wanted to do the same sort of thing,

I guess you would like to run userspace processes or at least to call libUML 
to configure something (but I don't think you can ask a kernel to do so much, 
without allowing it to run userspace processes)...

> to do with a UML the same 
> sort of thing you can do with a real Linux box: that is, set up
> networking and a bridging firewall, 

> then halt it: 

I.e. "shutdown now" without -h? Halt without poweroff?

> the kernel keeps 
> processing network packets and firewalling and bridging them perfectly
> well, but attackers now have *real* trouble changing the configuration.

_BLINK_ _BLINK_

Is this a _documented_ feature 8-() ?

> You stop it with kill() on the host, or mconsole; as it's halted and all
> fsen are unmounted and so on, you're safe from filesystem corruption.
>
> When combined with CONFIG_NETCONSOLE, you can even keep an eye on it. :)
>
> The necessary hack looks quite simple: I just haven't got around to it.

-- 
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Paolo Giarrusso, aka Blaisorblade (Skype ID "PaoloGiarrusso", ICQ 215621894)
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-14 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-06 23:23 [uml-devel] Does UML 2.6.14 work under x86-64? Rob Landley
2005-11-07 16:25 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-07 19:32 ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-07 14:38   ` David Lang
2005-11-07 19:44   ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-08  0:53   ` Rob Landley
2005-11-07 14:47     ` David Lang
2005-11-07 15:30       ` David Lang
2005-11-08  3:39       ` Rob Landley
2005-11-08  5:13 ` [uml-devel] Making UML Single Threader Can Sar
2005-11-08  7:09   ` Rob Landley
2005-11-08  7:44     ` Can Sar
2005-11-09  0:35       ` Rob Landley
2005-11-09  0:48         ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-09  1:17           ` Rob Landley
2005-11-09  1:31             ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-09  3:18               ` Rob Landley
2005-11-10  4:18                 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-10  4:58                   ` Rob Landley
2005-11-10  6:23                     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-11-10  4:07         ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-10  3:55           ` Rob Landley
2005-11-08 15:46     ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-09  0:27       ` Rob Landley
2005-11-14 13:59       ` Nix
2005-11-14 19:37         ` Blaisorblade [this message]
2005-11-14 20:00           ` Nix
2005-11-14 20:05             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-11-15 11:39           ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-11-16  1:23             ` Rob Landley
2005-11-08 16:13     ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-09  0:51       ` Rob Landley
2005-11-08 15:43   ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-08 16:10     ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-08 19:11     ` Can Sar

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