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From: "Tiwei Bie" <tiwei.btw@antgroup.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	benjamin@sipsolutions.net, linux-um@lists.infradead.org
Cc: Benjamin Berg <benjamin.berg@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] um: Do a double clone to disable rseq
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 22:13:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37d6a0e2-bbc2-4a93-bd7c-3cef847eba54@antgroup.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a9d3075304f39b818009081d496b0f245bad450.camel@sipsolutions.net>

On 5/28/24 7:57 PM, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-05-28 at 18:16 +0800, Tiwei Bie wrote:
>> On 5/28/24 4:54 PM, benjamin@sipsolutions.net wrote:
>>> From: Benjamin Berg <benjamin.berg@intel.com>
>>>
>>> Newer glibc versions are enabling rseq support by default. This remains
>>> enabled in the cloned child process, potentially causing the host kernel
>>> to write/read memory in the child.
>>>
>>> It appears that this was purely not an issue because the used memory
>>> area happened to be above TASK_SIZE and remains mapped.
>>
>> I also encountered this issue. In my case, with "Force a static link"
>> (CONFIG_STATIC_LINK) enabled, UML will crash immediately every time
>> it starts up. I worked around this by setting the glibc.pthread.rseq
>> tunable via GLIBC_TUNABLES [1] before launching UML.
>>
>> So another easy way to work around this issue without introducing runtime
>> overhead might be to add the GLIBC_TUNABLES=glibc.pthread.rseq=0 environment
>> variable and exec /proc/self/exe in UML on startup.
>>
> 
> It's also a bit of a question what to rely on - this would introduce a
> dependency on glibc behaviour, whereas doing the double-clone proposed
> here will work purely because of host kernel behaviour, regardless of
> what part of the system set up rseq, how the tunables work, etc.

Makes sense. My previous concern was primarily about the runtime overhead,
but after taking a closer look at the patch, I realized that the double-clone
won't happen on the critical path, so there shouldn't be any performance
issues. I also think the double-clone proposal is better. :)

Regards,
Tiwei


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-28 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-28  8:54 [PATCH 0/5] Increased address space for 64 bit benjamin
2024-05-28  8:54 ` [PATCH 1/5] um: Fix stub_start address calculation benjamin
2024-05-28  8:54 ` [PATCH 2/5] um: Limit TASK_SIZE to the addressable range benjamin
2024-05-28  8:54 ` [PATCH 3/5] um: Do a double clone to disable rseq benjamin
2024-05-28 10:16   ` Tiwei Bie
2024-05-28 10:30     ` Benjamin Berg
2024-05-28 11:03       ` Tiwei Bie
2024-05-28 11:57     ` Johannes Berg
2024-05-28 14:13       ` Tiwei Bie [this message]
2024-05-30  2:54         ` Tiwei Bie
2024-05-30  8:54           ` Benjamin Berg
2024-05-30 14:05             ` Tiwei Bie
2024-05-28  8:54 ` [PATCH 4/5] um: Discover host_task_size from envp benjamin
2024-05-28  8:54 ` [PATCH 5/5] um: Add 4 level page table support benjamin
2024-05-30  3:07   ` Tiwei Bie

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