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From: Bodo Stroesser <bstroesser@fujitsu-siemens.com>
To: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Cc: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] Recent patches of note
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:09:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42B29330.6050006@fujitsu-siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050616222340.GF9792@ccure.user-mode-linux.org>

Jeff Dike wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:51:20PM +0200, Blaisorblade wrote:
> 
>>>And also it makes tt a bit more removable, if Jeff decides to.
>>
>>Well, on this point I'd be cautious.
>>
>>Currently there is no way to even test UML in SMP mode other than using TT 
>>mode, so at least this must be solved.
> 
> 
> Yeah, we need to provide SMP on skas.  That, and the performance of page fault
> handling were the only two things stopping me from removing tt mode in favor
> of skas0.
> 
> Bodo and have talked about this, and it seems that skas0 SMP is impractical
> because a malicious threaded app could interfere with the stub operation.
> 
> However, skas3 SMP is quite doable, and I think an unsafe skas0 SMP mode
> that you can enable with a switch might be OK, too.
> 
> I've since decided that page fault performance is not a show-stopper.  It
> appears that tt mode is not supportable in recent libcs due to the errno
> problem. 
> 
> We can get page fault performance back by pushing PTRACE_FAULTINFO into 
> mainline, which should have been done a long time ago.  Same for sysemu, 
> BTW.
> 
> At this point, I'm -><- this close to deciding to get rid of tt mode in
> 2.6.13 or 2.6.14.  I want skas0 in mainline early in 2.6.13 so it can
> be exercised.  Getting skas SMP fixed, and PTRACE_FAULTINFO in mainline
> would make me happy about trashing tt mode at some later point.
> 
> 				Jeff
To make skas3 consistent, we should have a mainline version of add-stub-vmas.
Also, the LDT-changes should go in at the same time.

	Bodo


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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-16 16:07 [uml-devel] Recent patches of note Jeff Dike
2005-06-16 17:36 ` Bodo Stroesser
2005-06-16 17:47   ` Jeff Dike
2005-06-16 17:55     ` Bodo Stroesser
2005-06-16 18:02       ` Bodo Stroesser
2005-06-16 18:09       ` Blaisorblade
2005-06-16 18:31         ` Bodo Stroesser
2005-06-16 18:41           ` Blaisorblade
2005-06-16 18:40             ` Bodo Stroesser
2005-06-16 18:51               ` Blaisorblade
2005-06-16 22:23                 ` Jeff Dike
2005-06-17  9:09                   ` Bodo Stroesser [this message]
2005-06-17 18:36                   ` Blaisorblade
2005-06-17  0:35         ` Jeff Dike
2005-06-17 18:40           ` Blaisorblade
     [not found] <s2b18c1b.063@ORANGE.OUS.EDU>
2005-06-16 22:13 ` Jeff Dike
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-16 22:59 Anthony Brock
     [not found] <s2b1a1ed.010@ORANGE.OUS.EDU>
2005-06-20 14:47 ` Jeff Dike
     [not found] <s2b19c99.097@ORANGE.OUS.EDU>
2005-06-20 14:53 ` Jeff Dike
2005-06-20 17:59   ` William Stearns
2005-06-20 21:31     ` Blaisorblade
     [not found] <s2b6982e.048@ORANGE.OUS.EDU>
2005-06-20 20:11 ` Jeff Dike

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