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From: Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@kot-begemot.co.uk>
To: Thomas Meyer <thomas@m3y3r.de>
Cc: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [PATCH] um: Switch clocksource to hrtimers
Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 20:10:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <556B5CA0.9010200@kot-begemot.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1433098827.8871.13.camel@m3y3r.de>

On 31/05/15 20:00, Thomas Meyer wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 31.05.2015, 13:15 +0200 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
>> Am 20.05.2015 um 07:26 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>>> Am 20.05.2015 12:12 vorm. schrieb Richard Weinberger <
>>> richard.weinberger@gmail.com>:
>>>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Thomas Meyer <thomas@m3y3r.de> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> Switch the UML clocksource from interval timers to posix 
>>>>> interval timers 
>>>>> and move to a monotonic timer. 
>>>>>
>>>>> This fixes suspend&resume related timer issues and improves 
>>>>> network 
>>>>> performance as TCP state machines are now fed with the correct 
>>>>> time; 
>>>>> also correct QoS and traffic shaping. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Meyer <thomas@m3y3r.de> 
>>>> What tree is this patch against? 
>>>> It does not clearly apply to Linus' tree. 
>>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I did tested the patch against 4.1-rc3-something; will update the 
>>> patch against the latest commit!
> Hi,
>
>> Ping.
>> Would be nice to have this patch for the 4.2 merge window.
> I can provide you the current version of the patch, but I'm not sure if
> it's ready for inclusion yet.

Agree.

> For example:
> - With this patch I see new zombie processes of UML userspace
> processes. I'm not sure what's going on here.

+1

> - Anton reported some hang he sees with this patch

I did not have a chance to work on it last week, will try to find some
time this week. 

> - A person from cicso is worried about the potential idle CPU usage
> after the patch, because of the many timers started, i.e. a host with
> hundreds of UMLs.
This is less then the old CPU usage - checking time and rearming
nanosleeps and itimers is expensive.

>
> Also meanwhile I think is not the correct thing to start a new timer
> for each UML userspace process, because the timer will also trigger the
> userspace process, even the corresponding process isn't scheduled by
> the kernel currently. I think the previous behaviour with the itimer
> was okay, because the virtual timer only did execute when the process
> was executing which is the correct thing to do for the currently active
> task in the UML kernel.
> I see two solutions for above problem: cascade the kernel timer into
> the current active task; there is actually no need to start a timer in
> each userspace process.
> Start/stop each timer when a userspace process becomes active resp.
> becomes inactive again.
> I hope above logic makes some sense at all! What do you think about
> this?

Cascading the kernel timer looks like the correct solution.

A.

>
> with kind regards
> thomas
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-31 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-17  9:25 [uml-devel] [PATCH] um: Switch clocksource to hrtimers Thomas Meyer
2015-05-19 16:19 ` Anton Ivanov
2015-05-19 16:39   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-19 16:47     ` Anton Ivanov
2015-05-19 22:12 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-20  5:26   ` Thomas Meyer
2015-05-31 11:15     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-31 19:00       ` Thomas Meyer
2015-05-31 19:10         ` Anton Ivanov [this message]
2015-06-04 10:04           ` Thomas Meyer
2015-06-04 10:37             ` Anton Ivanov
2015-06-25 18:00             ` Thomas Meyer
2015-05-31 21:49         ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-31 21:58           ` Thomas Meyer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-08-09 17:53 Thomas Meyer
2015-08-15  8:15 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-08-15 16:27   ` Anton Ivanov
2015-08-18  9:34     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-08-18 15:30       ` Anton Ivanov
2015-08-18 16:04   ` Thomas Meyer
2015-10-13 21:45     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-14  6:12       ` Anton Ivanov
2015-10-14  8:25         ` Thomas Meyer
2015-10-14  9:23           ` Anton Ivanov
2015-10-14 11:22             ` Thomas Meyer
2015-10-16  9:18               ` Anton Ivanov

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