From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
Shyam Sundar S K <Shyam-sundar.S-k@amd.com>,
"open list:X86 PLATFORM DRIVERS"
<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:PCI SUBSYSTEM" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
"open list:USB XHCI DRIVER" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
iain@orangesquash.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH v18 2/2] PCI: Add a quirk for AMD PCIe root ports w/ USB4 controllers
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 16:16:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <001d9c72-49df-4a8d-a9bd-10311887c60d@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230913210543.GA440503@bhelgaas>
On 9/13/2023 16:05, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
[cut]
>>> I expect it to be an ongoing issue. I also expect unless we use
>>> constraints or convince the firmware team to add a _S0W object with a
>>> value of "0" for the sake of Linux that we will be adding IDs every year
>>> to wherever this lands as we reproduce it on newer SoCs.
>>
>> So maybe the way to go is to make the AMD PMC driver set a flag for
>> Root Ports on suspend or similar.
>
> I like the quirk approach. When PMC is involved, the device behavior
> doesn't conform to what it advertised via PME_Support.
>
> The v18 quirk isn't connected to PMC at all, so IIUC it avoids
> D3hot/D3cold unnecessarily when amd/pmc is not loaded.
>
Technically someone could; but realistically no one will be using these
machines without amd-pmc.
The battery life over suspend would be abhorrent.
> I don't object to avoiding D3hot/D3cold unconditionally. Presumably
> we *could* save a little power by using them when amd/pci isn't
> loaded, but amd/pci would have to iterate through all PCI devices when
> it loads, save previous state, do the quirk, and then restore the
> previous state on module unload. And it would have to use notifiers
> or assume no Root Port hotplug. All sounds kind of complicated.
>
Yeah this does sound needlessly complicated.
> Maybe it would even be enough to just clear dev->pme_support so we
> know wakeups don't work. It would be a pretty big benefit if we
> didn't have to add another bit and complicate pci_prepare_to_sleep()
> or pci_target_state().
>
I don't think clearing PME support entirely is going to help. The
reason is that pci_target_state() will fall back to PCI_D3hot when
dev->pme_support is fully cleared.
I think that clearing *just the bits* for D3hot and D3cold in PME
support should work though. I'll test this.
Assuming it works how about if we put the quirk to clear the
D3hot/D3cold PME support bit in drivers/platform/x86/amd/pmc/pmc-quirks.c?
It's still a quirk file and it makes it very clear that this behavior is
caused by what amd-pmc does.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-13 21:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-13 4:08 [PATCH v18 0/2] Add quirk for PCIe root port on AMD systems Mario Limonciello
2023-09-13 4:08 ` [PATCH v18 1/2] PCI: Move the `PCI_CLASS_SERIAL_USB_USB4` definition to common header Mario Limonciello
2023-09-13 10:34 ` Mika Westerberg
2023-09-13 4:08 ` [PATCH v18 2/2] PCI: Add a quirk for AMD PCIe root ports w/ USB4 controllers Mario Limonciello
2023-09-13 4:25 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-13 4:43 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-13 8:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-09-13 14:31 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-13 16:36 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-14 14:17 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-14 14:31 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-14 14:53 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-14 15:33 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-09-14 16:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-09-14 19:04 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-14 19:09 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-13 9:56 ` kernel test robot
2023-09-13 10:17 ` kernel test robot
2023-09-13 10:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-09-13 15:40 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-09-13 16:35 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-13 17:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-09-13 21:05 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-09-13 21:16 ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2023-09-14 4:59 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-14 12:32 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-09-14 13:57 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-15 0:55 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-15 1:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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