From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
Shyam Sundar S K <Shyam-sundar.S-k@amd.com>,
"open list:X86 PLATFORM DRIVERS"
<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:PCI SUBSYSTEM" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
"open list:USB XHCI DRIVER" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
iain@orangesquash.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH v18 2/2] PCI: Add a quirk for AMD PCIe root ports w/ USB4 controllers
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:55:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <67fe444c-e3e4-4063-a7ad-e0c3c835bc68@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75e5175e-406e-41dd-90c7-3dc30741897e@amd.com>
On 9/13/2023 23:59, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> On 9/13/2023 16:16, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>> On 9/13/2023 16:05, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>> [cut]
>>>>> I expect it to be an ongoing issue. I also expect unless we use
>>>>> constraints or convince the firmware team to add a _S0W object with a
>>>>> value of "0" for the sake of Linux that we will be adding IDs every
>>>>> year
>>>>> to wherever this lands as we reproduce it on newer SoCs.
>>>>
>>>> So maybe the way to go is to make the AMD PMC driver set a flag for
>>>> Root Ports on suspend or similar.
>>>
>>> I like the quirk approach. When PMC is involved, the device behavior
>>> doesn't conform to what it advertised via PME_Support.
>>>
>>> The v18 quirk isn't connected to PMC at all, so IIUC it avoids
>>> D3hot/D3cold unnecessarily when amd/pmc is not loaded.
>>>
>>
>> Technically someone could; but realistically no one will be using
>> these machines without amd-pmc.
>>
>> The battery life over suspend would be abhorrent.
>>
>>> I don't object to avoiding D3hot/D3cold unconditionally. Presumably
>>> we *could* save a little power by using them when amd/pci isn't
>>> loaded, but amd/pci would have to iterate through all PCI devices when
>>> it loads, save previous state, do the quirk, and then restore the
>>> previous state on module unload. And it would have to use notifiers
>>> or assume no Root Port hotplug. All sounds kind of complicated.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah this does sound needlessly complicated.
>>
>>> Maybe it would even be enough to just clear dev->pme_support so we
>>> know wakeups don't work. It would be a pretty big benefit if we
>>> didn't have to add another bit and complicate pci_prepare_to_sleep()
>>> or pci_target_state().
>>>
>>
>> I don't think clearing PME support entirely is going to help. The
>> reason is that pci_target_state() will fall back to PCI_D3hot when
>> dev->pme_support is fully cleared.
>>
>> I think that clearing *just the bits* for D3hot and D3cold in PME
>> support should work though. I'll test this.
>
> I did confirm this works properly.
>
>>
>> Assuming it works how about if we put the quirk to clear the
>> D3hot/D3cold PME support bit in
>> drivers/platform/x86/amd/pmc/pmc-quirks.c?
>>
>> It's still a quirk file and it makes it very clear that this behavior
>> is caused by what amd-pmc does.
>
> I've got it coded up like this and working, so please let me know if
> this approach is amenable and I'll drop an updated version.
>
> If you would prefer it to be in pci/quirks.c I believe I can do either.
I've also got a variation with pci/quirks.c working too.
Here's the trade offs:
pci/quirks.c
------------
* Two lines for every platform affected by this. IE:
DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_SUSPEND(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AMD, 0x14b9,
quirk_disable_pme_suspend);
DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_RESUME(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AMD, 0x14b9, quirk_reenable_pme);
* D3hot/D3cold works at runtime (since PME works at runtime)
* Only runs if s2idle is used
* Runs whether amd-pmc is bound or not.
drivers/platform/x86/amd/pmc/pmc-quirks.c
-----------------------------------------
* 1 line for adding new affected platforms
* Runs at probe; PME is disabled for D3hot/D3cold at runtime.
* Only runs if s2idle is used
* Only runs if amd-pmc is bound.
Having implemented both ways and given users will effectively always use
amd-pmc, I have a preference towards pci/quirks.c which only patches
dev->pme_support to drop D3hot/cold at suspend time and restores it at
resume.
Please let me know which way you prefer.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-15 0:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-13 4:08 [PATCH v18 0/2] Add quirk for PCIe root port on AMD systems Mario Limonciello
2023-09-13 4:08 ` [PATCH v18 1/2] PCI: Move the `PCI_CLASS_SERIAL_USB_USB4` definition to common header Mario Limonciello
2023-09-13 10:34 ` Mika Westerberg
2023-09-13 4:08 ` [PATCH v18 2/2] PCI: Add a quirk for AMD PCIe root ports w/ USB4 controllers Mario Limonciello
2023-09-13 4:25 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-13 4:43 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-13 8:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-09-13 14:31 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-13 16:36 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-14 14:17 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-14 14:31 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-14 14:53 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-14 15:33 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-09-14 16:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-09-14 19:04 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-14 19:09 ` Lukas Wunner
2023-09-13 9:56 ` kernel test robot
2023-09-13 10:17 ` kernel test robot
2023-09-13 10:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-09-13 15:40 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-09-13 16:35 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-13 17:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-09-13 21:05 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-09-13 21:16 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-14 4:59 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-14 12:32 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-09-14 13:57 ` Mario Limonciello
2023-09-15 0:55 ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2023-09-15 1:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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