wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 5GHz

wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 5GHz

[Bernhard Seibold]

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Hi!

The current regdb is missing a frequency range for Germany. That
freq-range is military-controlled, so to be on the safe side, I asked
the responsible agency, and they confirmed to me that it's legal to use.
They also sent me the attached pdf (German only) which contains some
details.

Please CC me on replies.


--- a/db.txt	2009-03-25 19:38:22.838975857 +0100
+++ b/db.txt	2009-03-25 19:39:37.722248019 +0100
@@ -165,8 +165,8 @@
 country DE:
 	# entries 279004 and 280006
 	(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW)
-	# entries 303005 and 304002
-	(5150 - 5255 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
+	# entries 303005, 304002 and 305002
+	(5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
 	# entries 308002 and 309001
 	(5470 - 5650 @ 40), (N/A, 1000 mW), DFS
 


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Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 5GHz

[Johannes Berg]

Bernhard Seibold wrote:

> The current regdb is missing a frequency range for Germany. That
> freq-range is military-controlled, so to be on the safe side, I asked
> the responsible agency, and they confirmed to me that it's legal to use.
> They also sent me the attached pdf (German only) which contains some
> details.


Odd, that document is from 2006, you'd think they would integrate it into
the 2008 release of the entire freq plan...

Can we find a URL for this one?

johannes

> Please CC me on replies.
>
>
> --- a/db.txt	2009-03-25 19:38:22.838975857 +0100
> +++ b/db.txt	2009-03-25 19:39:37.722248019 +0100
> @@ -165,8 +165,8 @@
>  country DE:
>  	# entries 279004 and 280006
>  	(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW)
> -	# entries 303005 and 304002
> -	(5150 - 5255 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
> +	# entries 303005, 304002 and 305002
> +	(5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
>  	# entries 308002 and 309001
>  	(5470 - 5650 @ 40), (N/A, 1000 mW), DFS
>
>
>

Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 5GHz

[Johannes Berg]

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On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 08:15 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:

> > Please CC me on replies.
> >
> >
> > --- a/db.txt	2009-03-25 19:38:22.838975857 +0100
> > +++ b/db.txt	2009-03-25 19:39:37.722248019 +0100
> > @@ -165,8 +165,8 @@
> >  country DE:
> >  	# entries 279004 and 280006
> >  	(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW)
> > -	# entries 303005 and 304002
> > -	(5150 - 5255 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
> > +	# entries 303005, 304002 and 305002
> > +	(5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
> >  	# entries 308002 and 309001
> >  	(5470 - 5650 @ 40), (N/A, 1000 mW), DFS

Also, the 5250-5350 range requires TPC, but we haven't covered that
requirement yet I think we need to use the lower EIRP limit of 100 mW. I
guess we should also update 5470-5650 to 5470-5725 and take into account
the TCP limitation (500 mW max power then instead of 1W) which I seem to
have gotten wrong too.

johannes

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Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 5GHz

[Bernhard Seibold]

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On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 08:15 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:

> Can we find a URL for this one?

http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/media/archive/5009.pdf


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Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 5GHz

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Bernhard Seibold
<bernhard.seibold@uni-ulm.de> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> The current regdb is missing a frequency range for Germany. That
> freq-range is military-controlled, so to be on the safe side, I asked
> the responsible agency, and they confirmed to me that it's legal to use.
> They also sent me the attached pdf (German only) which contains some
> details.
>
> Please CC me on replies.

FWIW we reviewed this internally and this matches our understanding as well. So:

Acked-by: Luis R. Rodriguez <lrodriguez@atheros.com>

  Luis

Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 5GHz

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Bernhard Seibold
> <bernhard.seibold@uni-ulm.de> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> The current regdb is missing a frequency range for Germany. That
>> freq-range is military-controlled, so to be on the safe side, I asked
>> the responsible agency, and they confirmed to me that it's legal to use.
>> They also sent me the attached pdf (German only) which contains some
>> details.
>>
>> Please CC me on replies.
>
> FWIW we reviewed this internally and this matches our understanding as well. So:
>
> Acked-by: Luis R. Rodriguez <lrodriguez@atheros.com>

Oh John and if this patch is applied and mine are accepted as well
please note that we now need to update the sha1sum.txt file with the
sha1sum of db.txt upon each change. A change will trigger a recompile
upon running make, and generate your key if you don't have one.

  Luis

Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 5GHz

[Thomas Bächler]

Bernhard Seibold schrieb:
> --- a/db.txt	2009-03-25 19:38:22.838975857 +0100
> +++ b/db.txt	2009-03-25 19:39:37.722248019 +0100
> @@ -165,8 +165,8 @@
>  country DE:
>  	# entries 279004 and 280006
>  	(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW)
> -	# entries 303005 and 304002
> -	(5150 - 5255 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
> +	# entries 303005, 304002 and 305002
> +	(5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
>  	# entries 308002 and 309001
>  	(5470 - 5650 @ 40), (N/A, 1000 mW), DFS
>  
> 

What about 5650-5725? Shouldn't that be added as well? At least my 
university runs an AP at 5.7GHz.

[PATCH] update/fix DE 5GHz rules

[Johannes Berg]

This updates the 5 GHz rules -- TPC is not supported in any way yet so
the transmit power limit needs to be halved; some additional ranges are
available.

Signed-off-by: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
---
 db.txt |   10 ++++++----
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index d3a05ea..b9cb935 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -162,13 +162,15 @@ country CZ:
 
 # Data from "Frequenznutzungsplan" (as published in April 2008),
 # downloaded from http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/media/archive/13358.pdf
+# Also applicable is http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/media/archive/5009.pdf
+# On the 5 GHz ranges TX power can be doubled if TPC is implemented.
 country DE:
 	# entries 279004 and 280006
 	(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW)
-	# entries 303005 and 304002
-	(5150 - 5255 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
-	# entries 308002 and 309001
-	(5470 - 5650 @ 40), (N/A, 1000 mW), DFS
+	# entries 303005, 304002 and 305002
+	(5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
+	# entries 308002, 309001 and 310003
+	(5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 500 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
 
 country DK:
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20)