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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Pablo MARTIN-GOMEZ <pmartin-gomez@freebox.fr>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] wifi: Transition/Padding delay subfields are for both EMLSR and EMLMR
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2026 14:07:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f60497d95314a9a595d0830cf47de8533674e811.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <822a3036-1cc0-460f-ad04-d711606afd4c@freebox.fr> (sfid-20260407_174732_307875_EE1220BF)

On Tue, 2026-04-07 at 17:47 +0200, Pablo MARTIN-GOMEZ wrote:
> On 07/04/2026 16:00, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > On Fri, 2026-03-27 at 21:11 +0100, Pablo Martin-Gomez wrote:
> > > -#define IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLSR_TRANSITION_DELAY	0x0070
> > > +#define IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLSR_EMLMR_TRANSITION_DELAY	0x0070
> > >  #define  IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLSR_TRANSITION_DELAY_0US		0
> > >  #define  IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLSR_TRANSITION_DELAY_16US		1
> > >  #define  IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLSR_TRANSITION_DELAY_32US		2
> > 
> > I think this is confusing. You have the "EMLSR_EMLMR_" prefix in the
> > definition for the mask, but not in the values, but also the prefix
> > itself gets very long, not sure what to do about that. Maybe just
> > ..._EML_TRANSITION_DELAY even if it doesn't match the spec completely.
> In the standard, there is two different tables to convert the field
> value to a delay: 9-417j for EMLSR and 9-417l for EMLMR. E.g. if the
> field has the value 1, in EMLSR mode, it's a 16 µs delay, in EMLMR mode,
> it's a 32 µs delay.

Ouch, good catch. Why do they just want to make everyone's life harder
all the time...

> As no driver implements EMLMR, I was expecting the first one to
> implement it to create the defines:
> ```
> #define  IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLMR_TRANSITION_DELAY_0US	0
> #define  IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLMR_TRANSITION_DELAY_32US	1
> [...]
> ```

That seems dangerous, you have to really look hard at the spec to really
notice?

> If you prefer, I can implement it +
> `ieee80211_emlmr_[trans/pad]_delay_in_us` but it will be dead code for now.

Dead code in form of a bunch of defines doesn't seem so bad I guess?

But I still think the naming is confusing. Maybe we just drop the
"EMLSR_EMLMR_" from the *mask* define, and have it only for the
individual defines, as say

#define IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EML_TRANSITION_DELAY	0x0070
#define  IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLSR_TRANSITION_DELAY_0US	0
#define  IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLSR_TRANSITION_DELAY_16US	1
#define  IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLSR_TRANSITION_DELAY_32US	2
...
#define  IEEE80211_EML_CAP_EMLMR_TRANSITION_DELAY_32US	1
...

I think that'd also call out that in fact those are (needlessly)
different.

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-08 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-27 20:11 [PATCH 0/3] EML Capabilities compliance changes Pablo Martin-Gomez
2026-03-27 20:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] wifi: Transition Timeout of 128TUs is not defined Pablo Martin-Gomez
2026-03-27 20:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] wifi: EMLMR Delay subfield has been removed Pablo Martin-Gomez
2026-03-27 20:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] wifi: Transition/Padding delay subfields are for both EMLSR and EMLMR Pablo Martin-Gomez
2026-04-07 14:00   ` Johannes Berg
2026-04-07 15:47     ` Pablo MARTIN-GOMEZ
2026-04-08 12:07       ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2026-04-09  9:04         ` Pablo MARTIN-GOMEZ
2026-04-09 13:14           ` Johannes Berg
2026-04-07  9:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] EML Capabilities compliance changes Johannes Berg

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