From: Alexander Aring <alex.aring@gmail.com>
To: Varka Bhadram <varkabhadram@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-wpan@vger.kernel.org, kernel@pengutronix.de,
Phoebe Buckheister <phoebe.buckheister@itwm.fraunhofer.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC bluetooth-next 0/4] ieee802154: add support for phy capabilities
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 14:33:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150409123334.GI1261@omega> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150409113658.GF1261@omega>
On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 01:36:58PM +0200, Alexander Aring wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 03:07:23PM +0530, Varka Bhadram wrote:
> > On 04/09/2015 02:58 PM, Alexander Aring wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 12:02:10PM +0530, Varka Bhadram wrote:
> > >> On 04/08/2015 04:48 PM, Alexander Aring wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> this patches introduce a mechanism to get phy capabilities. We simple add
> > >>> some additional pib values like "channels_supported" information. These
> > >>> information also includes mib values which are phy dependent like frame_retries
> > >>> or csma_backoffs, this is necessary because the phy doing a little bit mac
> > >>> stuff. We simple extend the pib according these phy dependent mac values.
> > >>>
> > >>> These capabilities are by default full 802.15.4 complaint, if some transceiver
> > >>> supports less functionality only then these values need to be overwritten inside
> > >>> the driver-layer.
> > >>>
> > >>> Fruthermore we also add functionality to dump these values via
> > >>> NL802154_CMD_GET_WPAN_PHY.
> > >>>
> > >>> - Alex
> > >>>
> > >>> Cc: Phoebe Buckheister <phoebe.buckheister@itwm.fraunhofer.de>
> > >>> Cc: Varka Bhadram <varkabhadram@gmail.com>
> > >>>
> > >>> Alexander Aring (4):
> > >>> ieee802154: introduce wpan_phy_supported struct
> > >>> ieee802154: move channels supported out of softmac
> > >>> ieee802154: add several phy supported handling
> > >>> at86rf230: set cca_modes supported flags
> > >>>
> > >>> drivers/net/ieee802154/at86rf230.c | 14 ++++++++++----
> > >>> drivers/net/ieee802154/cc2520.c | 2 +-
> > >>> drivers/net/ieee802154/fakelb.c | 30 +++++++++++++++---------------
> > >>> drivers/net/ieee802154/mrf24j40.c | 2 +-
> > >>> include/net/cfg802154.h | 11 ++++++++++-
> > >>> net/ieee802154/nl-phy.c | 4 ++--
> > >>> net/ieee802154/nl802154.c | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++-------
> > >>> net/mac802154/cfg.c | 4 ----
> > >>> net/mac802154/main.c | 10 ++++++++++
> > >>> 9 files changed, 71 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-)
> > >>>
> > >> And also we need to look into expose available power level (supported by transeiver)
> > >> to the user space by iwpan. Then user can configure the particular power level.
> > >>
> > >> If not user don't know the power levels that the transceiver support.
> > >>
> > > yep... I will try to add it to the next series, also for ed_level. For
> > > 700/800/900 Mhz at86rf212 it depends on which band the transceiver operates
> > > and the available tx_power settings.
> > >
> > > When I try to implement it, then I need to know the country/band laws
> > > what's the min and max tx_power db values? Does something like this
> > > exists? Is s8 as datatype really enough to support all available
> > > tx_power settings? -> (not because I also saw some floating point tx_power
> > > settings, but then we simple doesn't provide them). I will try to
> > > introduce something which supports the at86rf2xx transceiver values. We
> > > can still change the interface again later if it doesn't fit, but then
> > > everybody will hate us. :-)
> > >
> > > - Alex
> >
> > I think its not going to work out. But i am worrying about how the driver user
> > will know the power levels available..?
>
> You mean to know the power levels in userspace? We will introduce
> tx_power in wpan_phy_supported of course, then we will add support for
> dumping these values on a wpan_phy dump.
> >
> > How mac80211 is managing this issue..?
>
> s/mac80211/wireless/
>
> yes, I also looked in wireless. They used a U32 type and making some
> conversion to a floating point values by doing "value/100", do they have
> some Y.XX value. They call the not converted value MBM and converted
> value DBM, not sure for what MBM 100% stands.
>
> This is for the tx_power value.
>
>
> For requesting all supported tx_power values, I run "iw phy" on my side
> and they have only some frequency @ dbm information. And in my case the
> dbm value was always the same for all frequency.
>
> This was probaly the "max tx power" value for the frequency [1].
>
> What wireless has is a "automatic tx power" support, so there is some
> heuristic around to detect the optimized tx_power setting.
>
> The wireless tx_power looks very complicated at the moment and we should
> first support some existing nl802154 cmd (which was also before there)
> for setting a fixed tx_power mode. If wireless doesn't support dumping
> for that, means not we should also not support it.
>
>
>
> Maybe we can use some:
>
> u64 tx_power[IEEE802154_MAX_PAGE + 1][IEEE802154_MAX_CHANNEL + 1];
>
> Then start some enum:
>
> enum nl802154_tx_power {
> NL802154_TX_POWER_20DBM = BIT(0),
> NL802154_TX_POWER_19DBM = BIT(1),
> NL802154_TX_POWER_18DBM = BIT(2),
> ...
> NL802154_TX_POWER_NEG_44DBM = BIT(63),
> };
>
I think a better interface would be a new driver_op. Something like
"context based list interation while rtnl is hold", some new callback:
int get_tx_power(s8 *dbm), then nl802154 can start some nested attribute
and we calling get_tx_power until it returns 1 which indicate the end of
tx_power lists and ends the nested attribute. I will try to implement
this in this way.
- Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-09 12:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-08 11:18 [RFC bluetooth-next 0/4] ieee802154: add support for phy capabilities Alexander Aring
2015-04-08 11:18 ` [RFC bluetooth-next 1/4] ieee802154: introduce wpan_phy_supported struct Alexander Aring
2015-04-09 6:17 ` Varka Bhadram
2015-04-08 11:18 ` [RFC bluetooth-next 2/4] ieee802154: move channels supported out of softmac Alexander Aring
2015-04-08 11:18 ` [RFC bluetooth-next 3/4] ieee802154: add several phy supported handling Alexander Aring
2015-04-08 14:16 ` Alexander Aring
[not found] ` <55261AB2.6050500@gmail.com>
2015-04-09 10:14 ` Alexander Aring
2015-04-08 11:18 ` [RFC bluetooth-next 4/4] at86rf230: set cca_modes supported flags Alexander Aring
2015-04-09 6:32 ` [RFC bluetooth-next 0/4] ieee802154: add support for phy capabilities Varka Bhadram
2015-04-09 9:28 ` Alexander Aring
2015-04-09 9:37 ` Varka Bhadram
2015-04-09 11:37 ` Alexander Aring
2015-04-09 12:33 ` Alexander Aring [this message]
2015-04-10 4:01 ` Varka Bhadram
2015-04-10 8:35 ` Alexander Aring
2015-04-11 12:04 ` Guido Günther
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