Shrinking XFS - is that happening?

Shrinking XFS - is that happening?

[Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk]

Hi all!

I beleive I heard something from someone some time back about work in progress on shrinking xfs filesystems. Is this something that's been worked with or have I been lied to or just had a nice dream?

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Re: Shrinking XFS - is that happening?

[Nirjhar Roy (IBM)]

On Mon, 2025-08-04 at 17:13 +0200, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I beleive I heard something from someone some time back about work in progress on shrinking xfs filesystems. Is this something that's been worked with or have I been lied to or just had a nice dream?
> 
> roy
I have recently posted an RFC[1]. The work is based/inspired from an old RFC[2] by Gao and ideas
given by Dave Chinner.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/cover.1752746805.git.nirjhar.roy.lists@gmail.com/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210414195240.1802221-1-hsiangkao@redhat.com/
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> Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> roy@karlsbakk.net
> --
> I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med xenotyp etymologi. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk.
> 

Re: Shrinking XFS - is that happening?

[Nirjhar Roy (IBM)]

On Mon, 2025-08-04 at 17:13 +0200, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I beleive I heard something from someone some time back about work in progress on shrinking xfs filesystems. Is this something that's been worked with or have I been lied to or just had a nice dream?
I have recently posted an RFC[1]. The work is based/inspired from an old RFC[2] by Gao and ideas
given by Dave Chinner.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/cover.1752746805.git.nirjhar.roy.lists@gmail.com/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210414195240.1802221-1-hsiangkao@redhat.com/
--NR
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> roy
> 
> --
> Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> roy@karlsbakk.net
> --
> I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med xenotyp etymologi. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk.
> 

Re: Shrinking XFS - is that happening?

[Christoph Hellwig]

On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 10:20:15AM +0530, Nirjhar Roy (IBM) wrote:
> On Mon, 2025-08-04 at 17:13 +0200, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> > Hi all!
> > 
> > I beleive I heard something from someone some time back about work in progress on shrinking xfs filesystems. Is this something that's been worked with or have I been lied to or just had a nice dream?
> > 
> > roy
> I have recently posted an RFC[1]. The work is based/inspired from an old RFC[2] by Gao and ideas
> given by Dave Chinner.

Like the previous attempts it doesn't seem to include an attempt to
address the elephant in the room:  moving inodes out of the to be
removed AGs or tail blocks of an AG.

Re: Shrinking XFS - is that happening?

[Darrick J. Wong]

On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 03:48:18AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 10:20:15AM +0530, Nirjhar Roy (IBM) wrote:
> > On Mon, 2025-08-04 at 17:13 +0200, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > > 
> > > I beleive I heard something from someone some time back about work in progress on shrinking xfs filesystems. Is this something that's been worked with or have I been lied to or just had a nice dream?
> > > 
> > > roy
> > I have recently posted an RFC[1]. The work is based/inspired from an old RFC[2] by Gao and ideas
> > given by Dave Chinner.
> 
> Like the previous attempts it doesn't seem to include an attempt to
> address the elephant in the room:  moving inodes out of the to be
> removed AGs or tail blocks of an AG.

Anyone who wants to finish the evacuation part is welcome to pick this
up:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/173568777852.2709794.6356870909327619205.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs/

--D

Re: Shrinking XFS - is that happening?

[Nirjhar Roy (IBM)]

On 8/11/25 20:55, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 03:48:18AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 10:20:15AM +0530, Nirjhar Roy (IBM) wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2025-08-04 at 17:13 +0200, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
>>>> Hi all!
>>>>
>>>> I beleive I heard something from someone some time back about work in progress on shrinking xfs filesystems. Is this something that's been worked with or have I been lied to or just had a nice dream?
>>>>
>>>> roy
>>> I have recently posted an RFC[1]. The work is based/inspired from an old RFC[2] by Gao and ideas
>>> given by Dave Chinner.
>> Like the previous attempts it doesn't seem to include an attempt to
>> address the elephant in the room:  moving inodes out of the to be
>> removed AGs or tail blocks of an AG.
> Anyone who wants to finish the evacuation part is welcome to pick this
> up:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/173568777852.2709794.6356870909327619205.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs/

Hi Darrick,

I am working on the extending my online shrink fs work [1] to realtime 
fs shrink and as a part of that project, I am looking into the patchbomb 
above - specifically " [PATCHSET 3/5] xfsprogs: defragment free space". 
I have a high level questions before I delve deep into the patches above:

1. Can you please elaborate a bit on what do you mean by "finish the 
evacuation part"? I took a very high level look at the patch, and it 
seems it is already adding support to move data from one rtg/AG to another?

--NR

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Nirjhar Roy
Linux Kernel Developer
IBM, Bangalore

Re: Shrinking XFS - is that happening?

[Darrick J. Wong]

On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 08:05:12PM +0530, Nirjhar Roy (IBM) wrote:
> 
> On 8/11/25 20:55, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 03:48:18AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 10:20:15AM +0530, Nirjhar Roy (IBM) wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2025-08-04 at 17:13 +0200, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > 
> > > > > I beleive I heard something from someone some time back about work in progress on shrinking xfs filesystems. Is this something that's been worked with or have I been lied to or just had a nice dream?
> > > > > 
> > > > > roy
> > > > I have recently posted an RFC[1]. The work is based/inspired from an old RFC[2] by Gao and ideas
> > > > given by Dave Chinner.
> > > Like the previous attempts it doesn't seem to include an attempt to
> > > address the elephant in the room:  moving inodes out of the to be
> > > removed AGs or tail blocks of an AG.
> > Anyone who wants to finish the evacuation part is welcome to pick this
> > up:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/173568777852.2709794.6356870909327619205.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs/
> 
> Hi Darrick,
> 
> I am working on the extending my online shrink fs work [1] to realtime fs
> shrink and as a part of that project, I am looking into the patchbomb above
> - specifically " [PATCHSET 3/5] xfsprogs: defragment free space". I have a
> high level questions before I delve deep into the patches above:
> 
> 1. Can you please elaborate a bit on what do you mean by "finish the
> evacuation part"? I took a very high level look at the patch, and it seems
> it is already adding support to move data from one rtg/AG to another?

It can evacuate fully mapped blocks, but it can't do that for the EOF
block if the EOF is in the middle of that block.

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> Nirjhar Roy
> Linux Kernel Developer
> IBM, Bangalore
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