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From: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
To: "david@fromorbit.com" <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: "bfoster@redhat.com" <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"trondmy@kernel.org" <trondmy@kernel.org>,
	"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"djwong@kernel.org" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iomap: Address soft lockup in iomap_finish_ioend()
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 03:01:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4072d4a2990d4739b08273ec0efda9fc0c5f1d55.camel@hammerspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220104012215.GH945095@dread.disaster.area>

On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 12:22 +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 12:04:23AM +0000, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 09:03 +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 01, 2022 at 05:39:45PM +0000, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2022-01-01 at 14:55 +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > > As it is, if you are getting soft lockups in this location,
> > > > > that's
> > > > > an indication that the ioend chain that is being built by XFS
> > > > > is
> > > > > way, way too long. IOWs, the completion latency problem is
> > > > > caused
> > > > > by
> > > > > a lack of submit side ioend chain length bounding in
> > > > > combination
> > > > > with unbound completion side merging in xfs_end_bio - it's
> > > > > not a
> > > > > problem with the generic iomap code....
> > > > > 
> > > > > Let's try to address this in the XFS code, rather than hack
> > > > > unnecessary band-aids over the problem in the generic code...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dave.
> > > > 
> > > > Fair enough. As long as someone is working on a solution, then
> > > > I'm
> > > > happy. Just a couple of things:
> > > > 
> > > > Firstly, we've verified that the cond_resched() in the bio loop
> > > > does
> > > > suffice to resolve the issue with XFS, which would tend to
> > > > confirm
> > > > what
> > > > you're saying above about the underlying issue being the ioend
> > > > chain
> > > > length.
> > > > 
> > > > Secondly, note that we've tested this issue with a variety of
> > > > older
> > > > kernels, including 4.18.x, 5.1.x and 5.15.x, so please bear in
> > > > mind
> > > > that it would be useful for any fix to be backward portable
> > > > through
> > > > the
> > > > stable mechanism.
> > > 
> > > The infrastructure hasn't changed that much, so whatever the
> > > result
> > > is it should be backportable.
> > > 
> > > As it is, is there a specific workload that triggers this issue?
> > > Or
> > > a specific machine config (e.g. large memory, slow storage). Are
> > > there large fragmented files in use (e.g. randomly written VM
> > > image
> > > files)? There are a few factors that can exacerbate the ioend
> > > chain
> > > lengths, so it would be handy to have some idea of what is
> > > actually
> > > triggering this behaviour...
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Dave.
> > 
> > We have different reproducers. The common feature appears to be the
> > need for a decently fast box with fairly large memory (128GB in one
> > case, 400GB in the other). It has been reproduced with HDs, SSDs
> > and
> > NVME systems.
> > 
> > On the 128GB box, we had it set up with 10+ disks in a JBOD
> > configuration and were running the AJA system tests.
> > 
> > On the 400GB box, we were just serially creating large (> 6GB)
> > files
> > using fio and that was occasionally triggering the issue. However
> > doing
> > an strace of that workload to disk reproduced the problem faster :-
> > ).
> 
> Ok, that matches up with the "lots of logically sequential dirty
> data on a single inode in cache" vector that is required to create
> really long bio chains on individual ioends.
> 
> Can you try the patch below and see if addresses the issue?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.

Thanks Dave!

I'm building a new kernel for testing now and should have results ready
tomorrow at the latest.

-- 
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-04  3:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-30 19:35 [PATCH] iomap: Address soft lockup in iomap_finish_ioend() trondmy
2021-12-30 21:24 ` Jens Axboe
2021-12-30 22:25   ` Trond Myklebust
2021-12-30 22:27     ` Jens Axboe
2021-12-30 22:55       ` Trond Myklebust
2021-12-31  1:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-31  6:16   ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-01  3:55     ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-01 17:39       ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-03 22:03         ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-04  0:04           ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-04  1:22             ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-04  3:01               ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2022-01-04  7:08               ` hch
2022-01-04 18:08                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-04 18:14                   ` hch
2022-01-04 19:22                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-01-04 21:52                       ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-04 23:12                         ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-01-05  2:10                           ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-05 13:56                             ` Brian Foster
2022-01-05 22:04                               ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-06 16:44                                 ` Brian Foster
2022-01-10  8:18                                   ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-10 17:45                                     ` Brian Foster
2022-01-10 18:11                                       ` hch
2022-01-11 14:33                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-05 13:42                           ` hch
2022-01-04 21:16                 ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-05 13:43                   ` hch
2022-01-05 22:34                     ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-05  2:09               ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-05 20:45                 ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-05 22:48                   ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-05 23:29                     ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-06  0:01                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-01-09 23:09                       ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-06 18:36                     ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-06 18:38                       ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-06 20:07                       ` Brian Foster
2022-01-07  3:08                         ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-07 15:15                           ` Brian Foster
2022-01-09 23:34                       ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-10 23:37                       ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-11  0:08                         ` Dave Chinner
2022-01-13 17:01                         ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-17 17:24                           ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-17 17:36                             ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-01-04 13:36         ` Brian Foster
2022-01-04 19:23           ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-01-05  2:31 ` [iomap] f5934dda54: BUG:sleeping_function_called_from_invalid_context_at_fs/iomap/buffered-io.c kernel test robot

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