From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
djwong@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
Linux-Fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] xfs, iomap: Handle writeback errors to prevent silent data corruption
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 22:38:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aD04v9dczhgGxS3K@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aDfkTiTNH1UPKvC7@dread.disaster.area>
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 02:36:30PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> In these situations writeback could fail for several attempts before
> the storage timed out and came back online. Then the next write
> retry would succeed, and everything would be good. Linux never gave
> us a specific IO error for this case, so we just had to retry on EIO
> and hope that the storage came back eventually.
Linux has had differenciated I/O error codes for quite a while. But
more importantly dm-multipath doesn't just return errors to the upper
layer during failover, but is instead expected to queue the I/O up
until it either has a working path or an internal timeout passed.
In other words, write errors in Linux are in general expected to be
persistent, modulo explicit failfast requests like REQ_NOWAIT.
Which also leaves me a bit puzzled what the XFS metadata retries are
actually trying to solve, especially without even having a corresponding
data I/O version.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-02 5:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-29 2:50 [QUESTION] xfs, iomap: Handle writeback errors to prevent silent data corruption Yafang Shao
2025-05-29 4:25 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-05-29 5:55 ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-30 5:17 ` Christian Brauner
2025-05-30 15:38 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-05-31 23:02 ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-03 0:03 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-06 10:43 ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-12 3:43 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-12 6:29 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-02 18:41 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-02 5:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 14:35 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-03 14:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-29 4:36 ` Dave Chinner
2025-05-29 6:04 ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-02 5:38 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-06-02 23:19 ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-03 4:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 22:05 ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-04 6:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-05 2:18 ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-05 4:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-02 5:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 3:03 ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-03 3:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-03 3:21 ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-03 3:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-03 3:50 ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-03 4:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 5:17 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-06-03 5:54 ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-03 6:36 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-06-03 14:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 14:57 ` James Bottomley
2025-06-04 7:29 ` Damien Le Moal
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