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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	djwong@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] xfs, iomap: Handle writeback errors to prevent silent data corruption
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 22:38:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aD04v9dczhgGxS3K@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aDfkTiTNH1UPKvC7@dread.disaster.area>

On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 02:36:30PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> In these situations writeback could fail for several attempts before
> the storage timed out and came back online. Then the next write
> retry would succeed, and everything would be good. Linux never gave
> us a specific IO error for this case, so we just had to retry on EIO
> and hope that the storage came back eventually.

Linux has had differenciated I/O error codes for quite a while.  But
more importantly dm-multipath doesn't just return errors to the upper
layer during failover, but is instead expected to queue the I/O up
until it either has a working path or an internal timeout passed.

In other words, write errors in Linux are in general expected to be
persistent, modulo explicit failfast requests like REQ_NOWAIT.

Which also leaves me a bit puzzled what the XFS metadata retries are
actually trying to solve, especially without even having a corresponding
data I/O version.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-02  5:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-29  2:50 [QUESTION] xfs, iomap: Handle writeback errors to prevent silent data corruption Yafang Shao
2025-05-29  4:25 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-05-29  5:55   ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-30  5:17   ` Christian Brauner
2025-05-30 15:38     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-05-31 23:02       ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-03  0:03         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-06 10:43           ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-12  3:43             ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-12  6:29               ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-02 18:41                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-02  5:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 14:35     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-03 14:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-29  4:36 ` Dave Chinner
2025-05-29  6:04   ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-02  5:38   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-06-02 23:19     ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-03  4:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 22:05         ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-04  6:33           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-05  2:18             ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-05  4:51               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-02  5:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03  3:03   ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-03  3:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-03  3:21       ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-03  3:26         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-03  3:50           ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-03  4:40             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03  5:17               ` Damien Le Moal
2025-06-03  5:54                 ` Yafang Shao
2025-06-03  6:36                   ` Damien Le Moal
2025-06-03 14:41                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 14:57                       ` James Bottomley
2025-06-04  7:29                         ` Damien Le Moal

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