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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
Cc: brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  hughd@google.com, boris@bur.io, clm@fb.com,
	dsterba@suse.com,  linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, cem@kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,  riel@surriel.com,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs/super: skip non-memcg-aware nr_cached_objects in memcg slab shrink
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2026 11:08:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajrHa_JGxQvCMf8t@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260609123047.1948242-1-usama.arif@linux.dev>

On Tue, Jun 09, 2026 at 05:30:47AM -0700, Usama Arif wrote:
> The super_block shrinker is registered with SHRINKER_MEMCG_AWARE because its
> dentry and inode LRUs are memcg-aware (via list_lru). But the optional
> ->nr_cached_objects() hooks that the shrinker also drives are not memcg-aware:
> btrfs extent maps and xfs inode reclaim operate on filesystem-global
> state, and shmem's unused-huge shrinker walks a per-superblock shrinklist.
> None of them filter by sc->memcg.

I see the underlying objects whose count is returned by ->nr_cached_objects()
hook is memcg charged for shmem and xfs but not for btrfs. Do you envision
there might be a rare scenario where we have a lot of memory charged to a memcg
consumed by objects which ->nr_cached_objects() tracks and that memory becomes
unreclaimable due to this patch?

> 
> The mismatch shows up under memcg-heavy slab reclaim. shrink_slab_memcg()
> calls do_shrink_slab() once per (memcg, NUMA node) pair for every memcg
> whose bit is set in the per-superblock shrinker bitmap, which on a busy
> host means hundreds of calls per reclaim pass. Each scan queues the same
> global shrinker work item that's already kicked from the root path.
> 
> Because btrfs/xfs global count is typically non-zero on any in-use filesystem,
> the returned total stays positive even if a memcg's own dentry/inode LRUs
> are empty. shrink_slab_memcg() therefore never clears the SB shrinker bit
> in the memcg bitmap, so subsequent reclaim passes from the same memcg
> re-enter super_cache_count() and pay for the global counter walk again.

What is the main concern? Is it the amount of CPU wasted or are we over
reclaiming or reclaiming from unrelated memcgs?

> 
> Restrict ->nr_cached_objects() to the global shrink path (sc->memcg NULL
> or root). The memcg-aware dentry/inode LRUs keep being counted and
> scanned per memcg as before; only the global fs-specific hooks are skipped.
> The root/global shrink path still drives those hooks; only their
> invocation from non-root memcg slab reclaim is removed.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>

I am fine with the stopgap but it would be nice to have proper memcg awareness
in xfs and shmem callbacks. For btrfs, I am not sure if it makes sense to memcg
charge btrfs_extent_map objects but at least to decision to skip memcg reclaim
will be inside the fs callbacks i.e. nr_cached_objects.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-23 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-09 12:30 [PATCH] fs/super: skip non-memcg-aware nr_cached_objects in memcg slab shrink Usama Arif
2026-06-09 12:52 ` Jan Kara
2026-06-09 13:38   ` Usama Arif
2026-06-23 10:14 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-23 18:08 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]

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