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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Cc: rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>, Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 20:05:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220411030553.GW4285@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qy56ulk.fsf@mpe.ellerman.id.au>

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 09:33:43PM +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com> writes:
> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 10:07 PM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 06:02:19PM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 3:23 PM Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> wrote:
> ...
> >> > > I haven't seen it in my testing. But using Miguel's config I can
> >> > > reproduce it seemingly on every boot.
> >> > >
> >> > > For me it bisects to:
> >> > >
> >> > >   35de589cb879 ("powerpc/time: improve decrementer clockevent processing")
> >> > >
> >> > > Which seems plausible.
> >> > I also bisect to 35de589cb879 ("powerpc/time: improve decrementer
> >> > clockevent processing")
> ...
> >>
> >> > > Reverting that on mainline makes the bug go away.
> 
> >> > I also revert that on the mainline, and am currently doing a pressure
> >> > test (by repeatedly invoking qemu and checking the console.log) on PPC
> >> > VM in Oregon State University.
> 
> > After 306 rounds of stress test on mainline without triggering the bug
> > (last for 4 hours and 27 minutes), I think the bug is indeed caused by
> > 35de589cb879 ("powerpc/time: improve decrementer clockevent
> > processing") and stop the test for now.
> 
> Thanks for testing, that's pretty conclusive.
> 
> I'm not inclined to actually revert it yet.
> 
> We need to understand if there's actually a bug in the patch, or if it's
> just exposing some existing bug/bad behavior we have. The fact that it
> only appears with CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS=n is suspicious.
> 
> Do we have some code that inadvertently relies on something enabled by
> HIGH_RES_TIMERS=y, or do we have a bug that is hidden by HIGH_RES_TIMERS=y ?

For whatever it is worth, moderate rcutorture runs to completion without
errors with CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS=n on 64-bit x86.

Also for whatever it is worth, I don't know of anything other than
microcontrollers or the larger IoT devices that would want their kernels
built with CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS=n.  Which might be a failure of
imagination on my part, but so it goes.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-11  3:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-05 21:41 rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU Miguel Ojeda
2022-04-06  9:31 ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-06 17:00   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-06 18:25     ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-06 19:50       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-07  2:26         ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-07 10:07           ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-04-07 15:15             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-07 17:05               ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-04-07 17:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-07 23:14                   ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-08  1:43                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-08  7:23     ` Michael Ellerman
2022-04-08 10:02       ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-08 14:07         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-08 14:25           ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-10 11:33             ` Michael Ellerman
2022-04-11  3:05               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2022-04-12  6:53                 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-04-12 13:36                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-08 13:52       ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-04-08 14:06       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-08 14:42       ` Michael Ellerman
2022-04-08 15:52         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-08 17:02         ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-04-13  5:11         ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-13  6:10           ` Low-res tick handler device not going to ONESHOT_STOPPED when tick is stopped (was: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU) Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-14 17:15             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-22 15:53           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-23  2:29             ` Re: Nicholas Piggin

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