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From: Feng Tang <feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Bradley Morgan <include@grrlz.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] panic: use sys_info_with_filter() to avoid duplicate backtraces
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 20:06:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aj5rRV14OQact38f@U-2FWC9VHC-2323.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aj5TNB8cRtMNTtIT@pathway.suse.cz>

On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 12:23:48PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Thu 2026-06-25 15:25:58, Bradley Morgan wrote:
> > panic_other_cpus_shutdown() handles SYS_INFO_ALL_BT before stopping the
> > other CPUs. Do not ask sys_info() to handle that bit again later in the
> > panic path.
> > 
> > Use sys_info_with_filter() so panic_print=all_bt does not request more
> > output after the CPUs are stopped.
> > 
> > Fixes: a9af76a78760 ("watchdog: add sys_info sysctls to dump sys info on system lockup")
> > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Bradley Morgan <include@grrlz.net>
> > ---
> >  kernel/panic.c | 2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/panic.c b/kernel/panic.c
> > index 213725b612aa..eb842823df61 100644
> > --- a/kernel/panic.c
> > +++ b/kernel/panic.c
> > @@ -680,7 +680,7 @@ void vpanic(const char *fmt, va_list args)
> >  	 */
> >  	atomic_notifier_call_chain(&panic_notifier_list, 0, buf);
> >  
> > -	sys_info(panic_print);
> > +	sys_info_with_filter(panic_print, SYS_INFO_ALL_BT);
> 
> Hmm, this prevents printing backtraces from all CPUs completely.
> But what if they were not printed?
> 
> They might be printed by:
> 
> static void panic_other_cpus_shutdown(bool crash_kexec)
> {
> 	if (panic_print & SYS_INFO_ALL_BT)
> 		panic_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace();
> 
> [...]
> }
> 
> But it checks only "panic_print" variable. It won't do anything
> when (panic_print == 0).
> 
> In this case, we might still want to print the backraces when
> SYS_INFO_ALL_BT is set in kernel_si_info.

Yep.

> 
> >  	kmsg_dump_desc(KMSG_DUMP_PANIC, buf);
> 
> Of course, we might fix panic_other_cpus_shutdown() to check also
> kernel_si_info.
> 
> But it all becomes very hairy. We have several levels:
> 
>    + watchdog-all_bt-specific option, e.g. sysctl_hardlockup_all_cpu_backtrace
> 
>    + watchdog-specific si_info preferences, e.g. hardlockup_si_mask
> 
>    + panic-specific si_info: panic_print
> 
>    + universal fallback for any layer: kernel_si_info
> 
> Now, we try to check all these variables back and forth to
> trigger all backtraces or to avoid triggering them.
> And it clearly does not work well and the code is more and more
> hairy.

Agree :)
 
> I think about another approach. The word "waterfall" comes to my mind.
> Instead of checking all the settings back and forth, let's process
> each setting one by one and just remember what has been done and
> skip this in the next level.

When initially reviewing V2's 4th patch, I thought about the
'panic_this_cpu_backtrace_printed', but it's a local variable which
records the state.

> All the si_info actions seems to dump a global system state.
> So, it would make sense to remember the state in a global variable
> even when it might be modified by more CPUs in parallel.

IIUC, panic case is kind of special, as it has to separate the
'sys_info()' op in different stage. Can we do a merge in the start
of vpanic() by:

	panic_print = panic_print ?: kernel_si_mask;

 as a addon patch ?

Thanks,
Feng

> I am going to think more about it.
> 
> Please, do not send v4 until the discussion settles!
> 
> Best Regards,
> Petr


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-26 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-25 15:25 [PATCH v3 0/4] sys_info: prevent duplicate backtraces Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] sys_info: add helper for callers that print some sys_info on their own Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] watchdog: use sys_info_with_filter() to avoid duplicate backtraces Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] powerpc/watchdog: " Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26  9:42   ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] panic: " Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 10:23   ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 10:27     ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 12:06     ` Feng Tang [this message]
2026-06-26 12:14     ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 12:17       ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 12:32         ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 14:26           ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 14:35             ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 14:47               ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 14:58                 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-29 11:40       ` Feng Tang
2026-06-29 12:54         ` Bradley Morgan
2026-07-02  9:09           ` Petr Mladek
2026-07-02 18:13             ` Bradley Morgan
2026-07-02 18:22               ` Bradley Morgan
2026-07-03 12:46               ` Petr Mladek
2026-07-03 15:25                 ` Bradley Morgan

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