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From: Feng Tang <feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Bradley Morgan <include@grrlz.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] panic: use sys_info_with_filter() to avoid duplicate backtraces
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2026 19:40:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akJZxCTlLcwubqi2@U-2FWC9VHC-2323.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aj5tFiwhRqPkAkqU@pathway.suse.cz>

On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 02:14:14PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Fri 2026-06-26 12:23:50, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > On Thu 2026-06-25 15:25:58, Bradley Morgan wrote:
> > > panic_other_cpus_shutdown() handles SYS_INFO_ALL_BT before stopping the
> > > other CPUs. Do not ask sys_info() to handle that bit again later in the
> > > panic path.
> > > 
> > > Use sys_info_with_filter() so panic_print=all_bt does not request more
> > > output after the CPUs are stopped.
> > > 
> > > Fixes: a9af76a78760 ("watchdog: add sys_info sysctls to dump sys info on system lockup")
> > > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > > Signed-off-by: Bradley Morgan <include@grrlz.net>
> > > ---
> > >  kernel/panic.c | 2 +-
> > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/kernel/panic.c b/kernel/panic.c
> > > index 213725b612aa..eb842823df61 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/panic.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/panic.c
> > > @@ -680,7 +680,7 @@ void vpanic(const char *fmt, va_list args)
> > >  	 */
> > >  	atomic_notifier_call_chain(&panic_notifier_list, 0, buf);
> > >  
> > > -	sys_info(panic_print);
> > > +	sys_info_with_filter(panic_print, SYS_INFO_ALL_BT);
> > 
> > Hmm, this prevents printing backtraces from all CPUs completely.
> > But what if they were not printed?
> > 
> > They might be printed by:
> > 
> > static void panic_other_cpus_shutdown(bool crash_kexec)
> > {
> > 	if (panic_print & SYS_INFO_ALL_BT)
> > 		panic_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace();
> > 
> > [...]
> > }
> > 
> > But it checks only "panic_print" variable. It won't do anything
> > when (panic_print == 0).
> > 
> > In this case, we might still want to print the backraces when
> > SYS_INFO_ALL_BT is set in kernel_si_info.
> > 
> > >  	kmsg_dump_desc(KMSG_DUMP_PANIC, buf);
> > 
> > Of course, we might fix panic_other_cpus_shutdown() to check also
> > kernel_si_info.
> > 
> > But it all becomes very hairy. We have several levels:
> > 
> >    + watchdog-all_bt-specific option, e.g. sysctl_hardlockup_all_cpu_backtrace
> > 
> >    + watchdog-specific si_info preferences, e.g. hardlockup_si_mask
> > 
> >    + panic-specific si_info: panic_print
> > 
> >    + universal fallback for any layer: kernel_si_info
> > 
> > Now, we try to check all these variables back and forth to
> > trigger all backtraces or to avoid triggering them.
> > And it clearly does not work well and the code is more and more
> > hairy.
> > 
> > I think about another approach. The word "waterfall" comes to my mind.
> > Instead of checking all the settings back and forth, let's process
> > each setting one by one and just remember what has been done and
> > skip this in the next level.
> > 
> > All the si_info actions seems to dump a global system state.
> > So, it would make sense to remember the state in a global variable
> > even when it might be modified by more CPUs in parallel.
> > 
> > I am going to think more about it.
> 
> I have created a POC using Gemini. I haven't tested it.
> But it looks acceptable. And the logic seems to be more
> straightforward.
> 
> One drawback is that it requires adding the _reset()
> call for all sys_info() callers. It is fine in principle
> but it might complicate back-porting because all changes
> have to be done in one patch.
> 
> But honestly, this is a nice to have fix. Most people could
> live happily without it.
> 
> From 3c66436d9978030845a96bfaedd6b914536e2ac4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 13:55:41 +0200
> Subject: [POC] sys_info: Introduce state-tracking APIs to prevent duplicate
>  backtraces
> 
> In watchdog, panic, and hung task detection scenarios, sys_info() can
> be called multiple times or alongside direct backtrace triggers like
> trigger_allbutcpu_cpu_backtrace(). This results in identical backtraces
> being dumped repeatedly from all CPUs, cluttering the kernel log and
> delaying or obscuring critical debug details.
> 
> Introduce a state tracking bitmask and associated helpers:
> - sys_info_done(mask): Marks specific sys_info bits as already printed.
> - sys_info_reset(): Resets the tracking state.
> - sys_info_is_done(mask): Checks if all bits in the mask have been printed.
> 
> Update sys_info() to automatically filter out already printed bits
> using this state. Integrate these APIs with the generic hardlockup
> and softlockup watchdogs, the PowerPC watchdog, the hung task detector,
> and the panic core. This ensures that each piece of system information
> and backtrace output is printed at most once per lockup/panic event,
> and the state is reset cleanly when a lockup does not trigger a panic.
> 
> Races between sys_info() callers are ignored. It should be acceptable
> because the output from various watchdogs has never been synchronized.
> And panic() never returns.
> 
> Assisted-by: gemini-1.5-flash
> Signed-off-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>

Yep. There are cases that people want panic on task-hung or sw/hw lockup,
and this could remove much duplication of sys info dump, thanks!

Reviewed-by: Feng Tang <feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com>

> ---
>  arch/powerpc/kernel/watchdog.c | 13 ++++++++++---
>  include/linux/sys_info.h       |  3 +++
>  kernel/hung_task.c             |  2 ++
>  kernel/panic.c                 |  4 +++-
>  kernel/watchdog.c              | 10 ++++++++--
>  lib/sys_info.c                 | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  6 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-29 11:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-25 15:25 [PATCH v3 0/4] sys_info: prevent duplicate backtraces Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] sys_info: add helper for callers that print some sys_info on their own Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] watchdog: use sys_info_with_filter() to avoid duplicate backtraces Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] powerpc/watchdog: " Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26  9:42   ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] panic: " Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 10:23   ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 10:27     ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 12:06     ` Feng Tang
2026-06-26 12:14     ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 12:17       ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 12:32         ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 14:26           ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 14:35             ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 14:47               ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 14:58                 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-29 11:40       ` Feng Tang [this message]
2026-06-29 12:54         ` Bradley Morgan
2026-07-02  9:09           ` Petr Mladek
2026-07-02 18:13             ` Bradley Morgan
2026-07-02 18:22               ` Bradley Morgan
2026-07-03 12:46               ` Petr Mladek
2026-07-03 15:25                 ` Bradley Morgan

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