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From: "jeff millar" <wa1hco@adelphia.net>
To: "Frank van Maarseveen" <F.vanMaarseveen@inter.nl.net>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: is KERNEL developement finished, yet ???
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:00:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <007301c29cd3$95ad99d0$6a01a8c0@wa1hco> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20021206005510.A7411@iapetus.localdomain

Harnessing energy (rockets, nukes, etc) is fundamentally an unlimited
engineering opportunity.  But kernel development is mostly an attempt to
reduce overhead to zero. If a kernel runs 90% efficient now, then there's
only 10% additional improvement possible.

On the other hand application software is fundamentally unlimited.

So if you want to work on reliability, portability, maintainability, and
adaptation to new hardware then kernels make a good career.  But if you want
to break new ground, then it's either application space or hardware.

jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank van Maarseveen" <F.vanMaarseveen@inter.nl.net>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: is KERNEL developement finished, yet ???


> On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:27:40PM -0500, jeff millar wrote:
> > My opinion...
> >
> > Kernels are getting mature in the sense the there's not that many ways
to do
> > tasking and hardware interface.  It no longer a game of invention but a
game
> > of polishing.
>
> no
>
> Everytime once in a while someone thinks that everything which can
> be invented has been invented. Books like "The end of science". It's
> pure hubris.
>
> Around 1930 it was proven that is was impossible to travel to the
> moon. Then mankind discovered multi stage rockets and nuclear energy
> (not even needed for that).
>
> It's incredible how narrow-minded established science sometimes is today
> (and often has been past centuries). There is too much conservatism and
> a general lack of imagination (though I must admit that no SF writer
> could come up with something as bizarre as quantum mechanics, QED,
> string theory and a few other things).
>
> Software and more specific kernel development has quite a short history
> compared to all of that. So, let's be humble and accept that what we
> do today will most likely be considered a trivial joke when the next
> century arrives.
>
> You don't know what you do now know today.
>
> --
> Frank
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-12-06  2:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-03 13:03 cs driver SANTHOSH K
2002-12-04 15:26 ` is KERNEL developement finished, yet ??? Shane Helms
2002-12-04 17:01   ` Joseph D. Wagner
2002-12-04 18:38     ` Alan Cox
2002-12-04 18:07       ` Richard B. Tilley  (Brad)
2002-12-04 18:21         ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-12-04 18:39           ` Erik Andersen
2002-12-05 16:59           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-12-05  0:27   ` jeff millar
2002-12-05 23:55     ` Frank van Maarseveen
2002-12-06  0:24       ` Shane Helms
2002-12-06  3:00       ` jeff millar [this message]
2002-12-06  3:36         ` Miles Bader
2002-12-06  8:55         ` Helge Hafting
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-05  2:00 Ed Vance
2002-12-05 12:24 ` Shane Helms
2002-12-05 12:54   ` Joseph D. Wagner
2002-12-05 13:15     ` Andreas Schwab
2002-12-05 18:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-05 19:52       ` Shane Helms
2002-12-05 20:03         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-07 20:34       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-12-05 18:09     ` Alan Cox
2002-12-05 17:47       ` yodaiken
2002-12-05 19:08       ` John Bradford
2002-12-06  6:15       ` Joseph D. Wagner
2002-12-06  6:30         ` John Alvord
2002-12-06  9:48         ` Alvaro Lopes
2002-12-07 20:43           ` Kai Henningsen
2002-12-07 20:39       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-12-09 14:08         ` Jesse Pollard
2002-12-10  0:26           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-05 14:33   ` Mikael Pettersson
2002-12-05 14:58 Nicholas Berry
     [not found] <sdef2367.029@mail-02.med.umich.edu>
2002-12-05 15:17 ` Joseph D. Wagner
2002-12-05 15:38   ` Dave Jones
2002-12-05 15:44   ` Eric Weigle
     [not found] <sdef301b.011@mail-01.med.umich.edu>
2002-12-05 16:36 ` Joseph D. Wagner
2002-12-06  3:29   ` Keith Adamson

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