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From: "Stuart MacDonald" <stuartm@connecttech.com>
To: "'Alan Cox'" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"'Geert Uytterhoeven'" <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: <davids@webmaster.com>, <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
	"'Linux Kernel Mailing List'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: GPL Violation of 'sveasoft' with GPL Linux Kernel/Busybox +code
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:09:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00d201c4c761$21ec83c0$294b82ce@stuartm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1100110480.20555.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

From: Alan Cox
> 1. "You must pay $1000 to distribute the source"
> 2. "I will pay you $1000 if you do not distribute the source"
> 3. "If you distribute the source then I won't supply you updates"

To restate #1 in equivalent words:

1. "If you distribute the source, you must pay $1000."

How is that different from

1. "If you distribute the source, you lose a contractual right you
have paid for."

? Both are of the form:

if (exercise(GPL-protected-right))
  penalise(method);

> #1 places conditions on a GPL provided contract right which the GPL
> prohibits

Since my 1.s are equivalent to yours, thus #1 applys equally to mine,
one of which is the hypothetical (see my previous post) situation
under discussion of sveasoft revoking support contracts.

So I've reached a logical inconsistency in your argument. One of two
things must be true: a) you are wrong, or b) my assertion that my 1.s
are equivalent to yours are wrong.

I'm willing to believe I've made a mistake. Please show me where.

Note that your 3. is not equivalent to the hypothetical situation
under discussion because "I won't supply you updates" is not
equivalent to sveasoft's action of "We revoke your support/updates
contract".

..Stu


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-10 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-07 17:27 GPL Violation of 'sveasoft' with GPL Linux Kernel/Busybox + code Shawn Starr
2004-11-07 19:33 ` Raphaël Rigo LKML
2004-11-07 19:38   ` Shawn Starr
2004-11-07 21:16     ` Daniel Egger
2004-11-08  1:14     ` David Schwartz
2004-11-08 14:56       ` Pedro Venda (SYSADM)
2004-11-08 20:53         ` David Schwartz
2004-11-08 15:24       ` Alan Cox
2004-11-08 19:57         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-11-08 21:33           ` Pedro Venda (SYSADM)
2004-11-08 21:54             ` David Schwartz
2004-11-08 23:25               ` Alan Cox
2004-11-08 20:53         ` GPL Violation of 'sveasoft' with GPL Linux Kernel/Busybox +code David Schwartz
2004-11-08 23:00           ` Alan Cox
2004-11-09  2:32             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-09  4:08               ` David Rees
2004-11-09  4:23                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-09  9:47               ` Alan Cox
2004-11-09 19:30                 ` David Schwartz
2004-11-09 19:45                   ` Chris Friesen
2004-11-09 20:23                     ` David Schwartz
2004-11-09 20:48                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-09 23:06                       ` Alan Cox
2004-11-10  1:47                         ` David Schwartz
2004-11-10  9:27                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-11-10 18:14                           ` Alan Cox
2004-11-10 19:32                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-10 20:09                             ` Stuart MacDonald [this message]
2004-11-10 21:18                             ` Trever L. Adams
2004-11-09 23:22                   ` Alan Cox
2004-11-10  1:34                     ` Kyle Moffett
2004-11-10  2:01                       ` Michael Poole
2004-11-10  3:02                         ` Kyle Moffett
2004-11-10  4:14                           ` Michael Poole
2004-11-10  4:28                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-10 21:11                               ` Bill Davidsen
2004-11-10 23:09                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-11-10 22:14                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-11-15 14:47                                     ` David Woodhouse
2004-11-10 23:26                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-10  5:07                             ` David Schwartz
2004-11-10  1:47                     ` David Schwartz
2004-11-12 17:04                       ` Horst von Brand
2004-11-09 21:13                 ` Stuart MacDonald
2004-11-09  2:23         ` GPL Violation of 'sveasoft' with GPL Linux Kernel/Busybox + code Paul Jakma
2004-11-10 10:21         ` David Woodhouse

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