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From: Andy Pfiffer <andyp@osdl.org>
To: Andy Pfiffer <andyp@osdl.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>,
	Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@in.ibm.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	"Matt D. Robinson" <yakker@aparity.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkcd-general@lists.sourceforge.net,
	lkcd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: kexec (was: [lkcd-devel] Re: What's left over.)
Date: 07 Nov 2002 14:13:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1036707232.10457.275.camel@andyp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1036697556.10457.254.camel@andyp>

On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 11:32, Andy Pfiffer wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 00:50, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> > In staging the image we allocate a whole pile of pages, and keep them
> > locked in place.

> Just an idea:
> 
> Could a new, unrunnable process be created to "hold" the image?
> 
> <hand-wave>
> Use a hypothetical sys_kexec() to:
> 1. create an empty process.
> 2. copy the kernel image and parameters into the processes' address
> space.
> 3. put the process to sleep.
> </hand-wave>

A further refinement to the above:

1. make sys_kexec() a blocking call.  The caller reads the image into
their address space prior to making the call, and passes the same kind
of information (number of segments, segment pointer, etc.) to the
syscall in the same manner.  Then, it sets a well-known global variable
that means "there is a kexec image available", and then blocks.

2. add code to sys_reboot() under a CONFIG_KEXEC to check the global
variable in [1) above], and if a kexec image is available, wake the
process in [1) above].

3. the reawakened sys_kexec() then proceeds to copy-in and lay down the
new image in memory, shutdown the devices, and go.

I'm still pondering the kexec-ish reboot after panic() with this kind of
mechanism.  Ah well, it's just an idea.

Andy



  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-07 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 323+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-31  2:07 What's left over Rusty Russell
2002-10-31  2:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31  2:43   ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-31 16:36     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-10-31 17:04       ` Stephen Frost
2002-10-31 17:38       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 18:00         ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-06 20:52           ` Florian Weimer
2002-10-31 22:57     ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-31 22:28       ` Xavier Bestel
2002-10-31 23:08         ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-01  9:55         ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-10-31  3:00   ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-31  3:19     ` tridge
2002-10-31  6:21       ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-11-05  3:38         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2002-10-31  3:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-31  3:31       ` tridge
2002-10-31 10:15     ` Joe Thornber
2002-10-31 14:26       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-31 14:55         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-31 21:14       ` Rusty Russell
2002-11-01  8:20         ` Joe Thornber
2002-10-31 11:03     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-10-31 21:17       ` James Simmons
2002-10-31  3:06   ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-31  3:19     ` Stephen Frost
2002-10-31 21:09       ` john stultz
2002-10-31 21:49         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-10-31 22:32           ` john stultz
2002-10-31 22:54             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-01  0:54               ` john stultz
2002-11-01  1:31                 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-05  3:58                 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2002-10-31  6:22     ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-31  6:48       ` Dax Kelson
2002-10-31  6:56         ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-31 14:31           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-31 18:12             ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-31 18:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 19:43                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-11-01 15:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-01 15:35                     ` bert hubert
2002-11-01 15:50                     ` Gerald Britton
2002-11-01 18:17                       ` Matt Porter
2002-11-01 16:15                     ` Michael Clark
2002-11-01 16:16                     ` Erik Andersen
2002-11-01 20:43                     ` romieu
2002-10-31 18:28           ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-10-31 18:58             ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-31 19:14               ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-10-31 19:20             ` Alan Cox
2002-10-31 19:17               ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-10-31 20:45               ` Jeff Garzik
2002-11-01  6:00               ` James Morris
2002-10-31  7:10         ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-31  7:21           ` Dax Kelson
2002-10-31  7:42             ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-31 16:24               ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2002-10-31 16:44                 ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-31 17:11                   ` Stephen Frost
2002-10-31 17:30                     ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-31 17:39                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 17:36                   ` Richard Gooch
2002-11-02 17:35               ` LA Walsh
2002-11-02 20:44                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-31 22:53           ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-31  9:44     ` Lech Szychowski
2002-10-31  3:14   ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-10-31 16:00     ` LTT for inclusion into 2.5 bob
2002-10-31 16:19       ` Is your idea good? [was: Re: LTT for inclusion into 2.5] Larry McVoy
2002-10-31 16:38         ` Cort Dougan
2002-10-31 16:47         ` bob
2002-10-31 17:35         ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-10-31  3:21   ` What's left over Stephen Lord
2002-10-31  3:59   ` Andreas Dilger
2002-10-31  4:20   ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-10-31  4:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-31  4:31       ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-10-31  5:13   ` Dax Kelson
2002-10-31  6:07   ` [PATCH] kexec for 2.5.45 Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-31  6:25   ` What's left over Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-31 15:46     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 17:10       ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-10-31 17:13       ` Michael Shuey
2002-10-31 19:04         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-31 19:42           ` Michael Shuey
2002-11-01 22:25           ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-02 13:30             ` Michael Shuey
2002-10-31 17:18       ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-31 17:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 17:54           ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-31 17:54             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 18:21               ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-10-31 18:31               ` John Alvord
2002-11-02 23:44             ` Horst von Brand
2002-11-03  1:14               ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-31 18:10           ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-31 18:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 20:59               ` Dave Anderson
2002-10-31 21:49                 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-01  1:25                 ` [lkcd-devel] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-01  6:34               ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-01 13:26                 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-01 19:00                   ` Joel Becker
2002-11-01 19:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-01 20:06                       ` Steven King
2002-11-02  5:17                         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-02  5:36                           ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-11-03 14:08                             ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-02 15:29                           ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03  1:24                             ` [lkcd-general] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-03  1:49                               ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03  9:34                                 ` [lkcd-devel] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-03 14:33                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-03 15:34                                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-11-03 16:32                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-03 17:08                                     ` [lkcd-devel] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-05 18:07                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-03  3:10                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-11-01 20:21                       ` David Lang
2002-11-01 22:25                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-01 22:42                           ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-11-01 22:54                             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-01 23:10                               ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-11-01 20:22                       ` [lkcd-devel] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-02 13:02                         ` Kai Henningsen
2002-11-01 20:37                       ` Hugh Dickins
2002-11-02 18:23                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-11-03  2:25                         ` Horst von Brand
2002-11-04 16:18                           ` Hugh Dickins
2002-11-03 13:48                   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-03 14:26                     ` yodaiken
2002-11-05 17:09                       ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-05 17:36                         ` yodaiken
2002-11-04  2:44                     ` [lkcd-general] " Jennie Haywood
2002-11-04 14:45                       ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-11-04 15:29                         ` Alan Cox
2002-11-04 15:27                           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-11-04 15:38                             ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-04 16:51                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-11-05  4:57                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-10-31 18:50             ` Alan Cox
2002-10-31 21:33             ` Rusty Russell
2002-11-01  1:19               ` [lkcd-devel] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-01  2:59                 ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-31 18:15           ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-31 19:58             ` Bernhard Kaindl
2002-11-02  0:49             ` What's left over. - Dave's crash code supports a gdb interface for LKCD crash dumps Piet Delaney
2002-10-31 18:16           ` What's left over Oliver Xymoron
2002-10-31 18:26             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-31 18:49           ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-31 21:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-31 22:37             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-05 11:42               ` [lkcd-devel] " Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-11-05 18:00                 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-05 18:36                   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-05 19:19                     ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-05 20:10                       ` Alan Cox
2002-11-05 23:25                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-06  0:21                       ` Andy Pfiffer
2002-11-06  1:10                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-06  1:37                           ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-06  2:05                             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-07  6:04                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-07 12:17                                 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-06  4:07                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-06  4:47                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-06 19:24                               ` Rob Landley
2002-11-10 18:35                         ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-06  2:48                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-06  4:29                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-06  6:25                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-06  6:38                         ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-11-06  7:48                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-06  9:11                           ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-11-06 22:05                           ` Michal Jaegermann
2002-11-06 16:13                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-07  8:50                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-07 15:44                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-09 23:05                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-09 23:33                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-10  1:37                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  2:12                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-10  2:16                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  3:03                                       ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-10  3:23                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10 14:30                                       ` Alan Cox
2002-11-10 16:56                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  3:17                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-10  4:26                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10 18:07                                     ` Kexec 2.5.46-b6 Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-11 18:03                                     ` [lkcd-devel] Re: What's left over Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-11 18:15                                     ` Kexec for v2.5.47 Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-11 22:52                                       ` Kexec for v2.5.47 (test feedback) Andy Pfiffer
2002-11-12  7:22                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-13  0:48                                           ` Andy Pfiffer
2002-11-13  4:16                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-13 13:26                                             ` Kexec for v2.5.47-bk2 Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-15  9:24                                               ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-11-15 14:14                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-15 14:37                                                 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-20  9:44                                                   ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-11-20 17:28                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-18  0:07                                             ` [ANNOUNCE] kexec-tools-1.6 released Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-18  5:46                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-18  8:53                                                 ` [ANNOUNCE][CFT] kexec for v2.5.48 && kexec-tools-1.7 Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-19  1:10                                                   ` [ANNOUNCE][CFT] kexec for v2.5.48 && kexec-tools-1.7 -- Success Story! Andy Pfiffer
2002-11-19 10:25                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-19 17:21                                                       ` Andy Pfiffer
2002-11-19 17:34                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-19 18:17                                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-11-20  9:19                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-19 19:29                                                           ` Andy Pfiffer
2002-11-20  8:49                                                     ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-11-20  9:17                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-20 11:59                                                         ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-11-20 15:05                                                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-20 16:48                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-19  2:15                                                   ` [ANNOUNCE][CFT] kexec for v2.5.48 && kexec-tools-1.7 Dave Hansen
2002-11-19 10:13                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-19 15:28                                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-11-19 17:44                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-19 16:24                                                       ` Dave Hansen
2002-11-19 17:33                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-19 17:48                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-19 17:54                                                             ` Dave Jones
2002-11-19 17:42                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-02  4:41                                                   ` [ANNOUNCE] kexec-tools-1.8 Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-03  2:30                                                     ` Dave Hansen
2002-12-03  7:35                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-13  2:00                                                         ` Dave Hansen
2002-12-02 15:54                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-09 23:39                               ` [lkcd-devel] Re: What's left over Randy.Dunlap
2002-11-10  2:58                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10 14:35                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-10 18:13                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  1:31                               ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-10  3:10                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  3:30                                   ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-10  3:49                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10  3:49                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-10  2:08                               ` Alan Cox
2002-11-10  2:18                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-10 14:31                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-07 15:48                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-07 19:32                           ` kexec (was: [lkcd-devel] Re: What's left over.) Andy Pfiffer
2002-11-07 22:13                             ` Andy Pfiffer [this message]
2002-11-07 22:56                               ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-11 17:03                             ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found]                             ` <200211080536.31287.landley@trommello.org>
2002-11-11 17:58                               ` Andy Pfiffer
2002-11-11 18:25                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-08 18:01                           ` [lkcd-devel] Re: What's left over Alan Cox
2002-11-09 21:21                   ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-11 16:27                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-01  1:35             ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-01  2:06               ` Jeff Garzik
2002-11-01  3:46                 ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-01  4:45                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-01  4:57                     ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-01  9:18                       ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-11-01 14:55                         ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-01 15:16                           ` Alexander Viro
2002-11-01 15:27                             ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-01 16:16                             ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-01 16:32                               ` Larry McVoy
2002-11-01 16:44                                 ` Linux without Linus was " Brian Jackson
2002-11-01 16:58                                   ` Paul Fulghum
2002-11-01 19:14                                 ` Shawn
2002-11-01 19:36                                   ` Shawn
2002-11-01 17:56                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-11-01 18:23                               ` Shane R. Stixrud
2002-11-01 19:18                                 ` John Alvord
2002-11-04  2:13                               ` Rob Landley
2002-11-04 14:58                                 ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-04 12:59                                   ` Rob Landley
2002-11-01 15:32                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-11-01 13:30             ` Alan Cox
2002-11-01 22:28               ` Rusty Russell
2002-11-01  6:27           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-01  6:36             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-01  7:00               ` [lkcd-devel] " Castor Fu
2002-11-01  8:23               ` Craig I. Hagan
2002-11-01 14:03                 ` Patrick Finnegan
2002-11-02  4:57                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-01 13:28               ` Alan Cox
2002-11-02  5:00                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-11-02 15:30                   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-02 18:55                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-11-02 19:19                     ` romieu
2002-11-02 19:21                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-11-02 19:32                         ` romieu
2002-11-02 19:42                           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-11-02 20:23                             ` romieu
2002-11-02 20:31                     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-02 20:12                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-11-01  9:20             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-11-01 13:29             ` Alan Cox
2002-10-31 22:20         ` Shawn
2002-10-31 23:14           ` [lkcd-general] " Bernhard Kaindl
2002-11-01  2:01           ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-11-02 10:36             ` Brad Hards
2002-11-02 19:28               ` [lkcd-devel] " Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-31 17:55       ` [lkcd-general] " Dave Craft
2002-10-31 18:45         ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-31 19:16           ` Stephen Hemminger
2002-10-31 19:57             ` george anzinger
2002-10-31 20:48               ` Stephen Hemminger
2002-10-31 19:33       ` [lkcd-devel] " Castor Fu
2002-10-31  7:46   ` Ville Herva
2002-10-31  9:23     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-10-31  9:39       ` Ville Herva
2002-10-31 10:16   ` Trever L. Adams
2002-10-31 18:08     ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-10-31 13:36   ` mbs
2002-10-31 14:21   ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-31 14:52   ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-10-31 16:37   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-11-01  0:52   ` James Simmons
2002-11-01 10:24   ` What's left over. (Fbdev rewrite) Helge Hafting
2002-11-05 17:29 ` kexec (was: Re: What's left over.) Werner Almesberger
2002-11-05 18:10   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-11-05 19:06   ` Martin J. Bligh

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