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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	mingo@elte.hu, Thomas Sattler <tsattler@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] debug workqueue deadlocks with lockdep
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:57:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1183557479.3812.24.camel@johannes.berg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070704125219.GA98@tv-sign.ru>

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On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 16:52 +0400, Oleg Nesterov wrote:

> Yes. And no other work (except a barrier) can run before the caller of
> wait_on_work() is woken.

Alright, thanks. Yes, then what you proposed makes a lot of sense, I'll
implement it.

> Aha, now I see where I was confused. Yes, we can't avoid the false positives
> with flush_workqueue().
> 
> I hope this won't be a problem, because almost every usage of flush_workqueue()
> is pointless nowadays. So even if we have a false positive, it probably
> means the code needs cleanups anyway.
> 
> But see below,

[...]

> If you are going to do this, may I suggest you to make 2 separate patches?
> Exactly because we can't avoid the false positives with flush_workqueue(),
> it would be nice if we have an option to revert the 2-nd patch if there are
> too many false positives (I hope this won't happen).

I've run this patch on my system for a few days now and only seen
exactly one warning; however, it's *not* actually a *false* positive,
it's a positive but it's also perfectly possible to deadlock if the
system is loaded more than one work item is stuck on the workqueue for
some reason. Say A takes L1 and B runs without locks, and then you flush
the workqueue under L1; you'll get a real deadlock when both A and B are
actually scheduled to run!

johannes

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-04 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-27 18:40 [RFC/PATCH] debug workqueue deadlocks with lockdep Johannes Berg
2007-06-28 16:33 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-28 17:33   ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-30  8:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-30 11:46       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-02  8:37         ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-02 13:03         ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 17:31           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-03 19:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-04 11:49             ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-04 12:21               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-04 13:59                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-04 12:25               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-04 12:52               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-04 13:57                 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2007-07-05  8:43                 ` Ingo Molnar

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