From: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] futex: fix miss ordered wakeups
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 08:32:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1211643165.18130.166.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0805241039220.3295@apollo.tec.linutronix.de>
On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 10:55 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Normal futexes have no ordering guarantees at all. There is no
> mechanism to prevent lock stealing from lower priority tasks. So why
> should we care about the once a year case, where a sleepers priority
> is modified ?
Lock stealing? The usage of sched_setscheduler is fairly pervasive in
userspace, if a task becomes SCHED_FIFO it did so via
sched_setscheduler. So I don't think this is at all "once a year". Tasks
shouldn't be forced to determine if a task is sleeping or not before it
calls sched_setscheduler.
> If you need ordering guarantees then use PI futexes.
There are degree's of overhead with each step.. Someone may not need or
want priority inheritance.
> > +void futex_adjust_waiters(struct task_struct *p)
> > +{
> > + spin_lock(&p->pi_lock);
> > + spin_lock(&hb->lock);
> > ...
> > + spin_unlock(&hb->lock);
> > + }
> > + spin_unlock(&p->pi_lock);
> > +}
>
> vs.
>
> > @@ -1155,6 +1191,8 @@ static int futex_wait(u32 __user *uaddr,
> {
> ....
> hb = queue_lock(&q);
>
> > + spin_lock(¤t->pi_lock);
> > + current->blocked_on = &blocked_on;
> > + spin_unlock(¤t->pi_lock);
>
> There are more issues vs. pi futexes as well. The simple case of
> futex_wait() vs. futex_adjust_waiters will just upset lockdep, but
> there are real dealocks vs. unqueue_me_pi waiting.
You mean the lock ordering would cause the deadlock vs. unqueue_me_pi ,
or are you talking about something else?
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-24 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-22 7:00 [PATCH 1/3] mutex debug: add generic blocked_on usage Daniel Walker
2008-05-22 7:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] rtmutex: " Daniel Walker
2008-05-22 7:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] futex: fix miss ordered wakeups Daniel Walker
2008-05-23 5:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-23 5:15 ` Daniel Walker
2008-05-23 5:24 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-23 5:36 ` Daniel Walker
2008-05-24 3:38 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-24 8:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-24 15:32 ` Daniel Walker [this message]
2008-05-24 17:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-24 17:24 ` Daniel Walker
2008-05-24 18:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-24 19:19 ` Daniel Walker
2008-05-24 20:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
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