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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] Re: PostgreSQL pgbench performance regression in 2.6.23+
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:13:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1212732780.13981.43.camel@marge.simson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0806060027290.8466@westnet.com>


On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 01:03 -0400, Greg Smith wrote:

> I think I might not be testing exactly the same thing you did, though, 
> because the pattern doesn't match.  I think that my Q6600 system runs a 
> little bit faster than yours, which is the case for small numbers of 
> clients here.  But once we get above 8 clients your setup is way faster, 
> with the difference at 15 clients being the largest.  Were you perhaps 
> using batch mode when you generated these results?

No, those were with stock settings.

> Regardless, clearly your patch reduces the regression with the default 
> parameters to a mild one instead of the gigantic one we started with.

Unfortunately, after the recent reverts, we're right back to huge :-/

I'm trying to come up with a dirt simple solution that doesn't harm
other load types.  I've found no clear reason why we regressed so badly,
it seems to be a luck of the draw run order thing.  As soon as the load
starts jamming up a bit, it avalanches into a serialized mess again.  I
know the why, just need to find that dirt simple and pure win fix.
 
> Considering how generally incompatible this benchmark is with this 
> scheduler, and that there are clear workarounds (feature disabling) I can 
> document in PostgreSQL land to "fix" the problem defined for me now, I'd 
> be happy if all that came from this investigation was this change.  I'd 
> hope that being strengthened against this workload improves the 
> scheduler's robustness for other tasks of this type, which I'm sure there 
> are more of than just pgbench.

I consider pgbench to be a pretty excellent testcase.  Getting this
fixed properly will certainly benefit similar loads, Xorg being one
that's just not as extreme as pgbench.

> You get my vote for moving toward committing it+backport even if 
> the improvement is only what I saw in my tests.  If I can figure out how 
> to get closer to the results you got, all the better.

It's committed, but I don't think a back-port is justified.  It does
what it's supposed to do, but there's a part 2.  I suspect that your
results differ from mine due to that luck of the run order draw thing.

	-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-06  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-21 17:34 PostgreSQL pgbench performance regression in 2.6.23+ Greg Smith
2008-05-22  7:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-22  8:28   ` Dhaval Giani
2008-05-22  9:05     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-22 10:34       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-22 11:25         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-22 11:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-22 12:09             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-22 12:24               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-22 13:16                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-23  7:13                 ` Greg Smith
2008-05-23 10:00                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-23 10:10                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-23 10:15                       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-23 23:18                         ` Greg Smith
2008-05-23 23:46                           ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-24  8:08                             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-27  0:28                             ` Greg Smith
2008-05-27  5:59                               ` [patch] " Mike Galbraith
2008-05-27  8:20                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-27  8:35                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-06-06  5:03                                 ` Greg Smith
2008-06-06  6:13                                   ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2008-06-07 11:38                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-06-07 12:50                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-06-07 13:07                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-07 14:16                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2008-06-07 16:16                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-07 17:56                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-06-07 13:08                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-07 14:54                                         ` [patch part 2] " Mike Galbraith
2008-06-07 16:12                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-07 17:53                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-06-07 18:19                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-23 13:05                       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-23 13:35                         ` Mike Galbraith

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