From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>
Cc: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
"fweisbec@gmail.com" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2] perf, x86: try to handle unknown nmis with running perfctrs
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:48:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1281970116.1926.1495.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100811220058.GT26154@erda.amd.com>
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 00:00 +0200, Robert Richter wrote:
> From 8bb831af56d118b85fc38e0ddc2e516f7504b9fb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>
> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:19:59 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] perf, x86: try to handle unknown nmis with running perfctrs
>
> When perfctrs are running it is valid to have unhandled nmis, two
> events could trigger 'simultaneously' raising two back-to-back
> NMIs. If the first NMI handles both, the latter will be empty and daze
> the CPU.
>
> The solution to avoid an 'unknown nmi' massage in this case was simply
> to stop the nmi handler chain when perfctrs are runnning by stating
> the nmi was handled. This has the drawback that a) we can not detect
> unknown nmis anymore, and b) subsequent nmi handlers are not called.
>
> This patch addresses this. Now, we check this unknown NMI if it could
> be a perfctr back-to-back NMI. Otherwise we pass it and let the kernel
> handle the unknown nmi.
>
> This is a debug log:
>
> Deltas:
>
> nmi #32346 1462095 <<<< 1st nmi (standard) handling 2 counters
> nmi #32347 2046 <<<< 2nd nmi (back-to-back) handling one counter
> nmi #32348 1773 <<<< 3rd nmi (back-to-back) handling no counter! [3]
>
> For back-to-back nmi detection there are the following rules:
>
> The perfctr nmi handler was handling more than one counter and no
> counter was handled in the subsequent nmi (see [1] and [2] above).
>
> There is another case if there are two subsequent back-to-back nmis
> [3]. In this case we measure the time between the first and the
> 2nd. The 2nd is detected as back-to-back because the first handled
> more than one counter. The time between the 1st and the 2nd is used to
> calculate a range for which we assume a back-to-back nmi. Now, the 3rd
> nmi triggers, we measure again the time delta and compare it with the
> first delta from which we know it was a back-to-back nmi. If the 3rd
> nmi is within the range, it is also a back-to-back nmi and we drop it.
I liked the one without funny timestamps in better, the whole timestamps
thing just feels too fragile.
Relying on handled > 1 to arm the back-to-back filter seems doable.
(Also, you didn't deal with the TSC going backwards..)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-16 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-04 9:21 A question of perf NMI handler Lin Ming
2010-08-04 9:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 10:01 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-04 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 10:29 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-04 14:00 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-04 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 14:52 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-04 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 15:18 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-04 15:50 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-04 16:10 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-04 16:20 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-04 16:39 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-04 18:48 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-04 19:22 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-04 19:26 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-06 6:52 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-06 14:21 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-09 19:48 ` [PATCH] perf, x86: try to handle unknown nmis with running perfctrs Robert Richter
2010-08-09 20:02 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-10 7:42 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-10 16:16 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-10 16:41 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-10 17:24 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-10 19:05 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-10 19:24 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-12 13:24 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-12 14:31 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-10 20:48 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-11 2:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-11 11:10 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-11 12:44 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-11 14:03 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-11 14:32 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-13 4:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-13 8:22 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-14 1:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-14 2:29 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-11 12:39 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-11 3:19 ` Huang Ying
2010-08-11 12:36 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-16 14:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-11 22:00 ` [PATCH -v2] " Robert Richter
2010-08-12 13:10 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-12 18:21 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-16 7:37 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-12 13:52 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-13 4:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-16 14:48 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-08-16 16:27 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-16 17:16 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-16 19:06 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-16 19:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-16 19:18 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-16 22:55 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-17 15:23 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-17 15:22 ` [PATCH -v3] " Robert Richter
2010-08-17 16:17 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-19 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-19 12:39 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-19 14:12 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-19 14:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-19 15:20 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-19 17:43 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-19 17:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-19 21:58 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-20 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-20 1:50 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-20 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-08-20 10:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-20 10:30 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-20 12:39 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-20 13:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-08-20 13:51 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-20 14:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-08-20 20:45 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-08-24 21:48 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-20 8:36 ` Robert Richter
2010-08-20 14:17 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf, x86: Fix handle_irq return values tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-20 14:17 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf, x86: Try to handle unknown nmis with an enabled PMU tip-bot for Robert Richter
2010-08-06 15:35 ` A question of perf NMI handler Andi Kleen
2010-08-04 15:45 ` Don Zickus
2010-08-06 15:37 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-04 13:54 ` Don Zickus
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