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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] [PATCH 1/5] events: Add EVENT_FS the event filesystem
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:16:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1290007009.2109.926.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101117150332.GA7603@elte.hu>

On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 16:03 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> I think Arjan's complaints at the KS stemmed from prior sporadic declarations on 
> lkml that there is no tracepoint ABI _at all_, and that powertop/latencytop could 
> break anytime. 

And it will, afaik Arjan refused to even parse the format file which is
part of the tracepoint abi and I'll be changing those for the scheduler.

I really object to not being able to make sane changes just because some
tool is too lazy to even implement the full ABI that was exposed.


> I think Arjan's complaints at the KS stemmed from prior sporadic declarations on 
> lkml that there is no tracepoint ABI _at all_, and that powertop/latencytop could 
> break anytime. 

I fully intent to break powertop/latencytop if they refuse to use the
format file, deal with it.

Also, in the unlikely event we need to re-order the task->state bits
I'll do so without a moments hesitation, regardless of who consumes them
through the scheduler tracepoints, that's simply not stuff that should
be tied down.

The same for anything that tries to interpret task->prio through the
tracepoints.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-17 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-17  0:53 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] tracing/events: stable tracepoints Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17  0:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] [PATCH 1/5] events: Add EVENT_FS the event filesystem Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17  3:32   ` Greg KH
2010-11-17 10:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:25       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 15:03         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 15:16           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-11-17 15:16           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 15:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 18:42           ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 15:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-23 21:29           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 17:46         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 17:52           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 18:12             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-18  9:42               ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 23:48             ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-18 13:05               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 12:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17  0:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] [PATCH 2/5] tracing/events: Add code to (un)register stable events Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17  0:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] [PATCH 3/5] tracing/events: Add infrastructure to show stable event formats Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17  0:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] [PATCH 4/5] tracing/events: Add stable event sched_switch Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17  0:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] [PATCH 5/5] tracing/events: Add sched_migrate_task stable event Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 20:14 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] tracing/events: stable tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers

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