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From: George Kashperko <george@znau.edu.ua>
To: "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5@gmail.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"b43-dev@lists.infradead.org" <b43-dev@lists.infradead.org>,
	Arend van Spriel <arend@broadcom.com>,
	linuxdriverproject <devel@linuxdriverproject.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] bcmai: introduce AI driver
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 21:36:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1302201418.30694.3.camel@dev.znau.edu.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTim30i8kBkvsSvmWxQaNxWkfMjhOZA@mail.gmail.com>


> W dniu 7 kwietnia 2011 09:54 użytkownik Michael Büsch <mb@bu3sch.de> napisał:
> > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 02:54 +0200, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
> >> W dniu 7 kwietnia 2011 02:00 użytkownik George Kashperko
> >> <george@znau.edu.ua> napisał:
> >> > For PCI function description take a look at PCI specs or PCI
> >> > configuration space description (e. g.
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_configuration_space)
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for missleading short-ups, w11 - bcm80211 core, under two-head I
> >> > mean ssb/axi with two functional cores on same interconnect (like w11
> >> > +w11, not a lot of these exists I guess). Also there were some b43+b44
> >> > on single PCI ssb host and those where implemented as ssb interconnect
> >> > on multifunctional PCI host therefore providing separate access windows
> >> > for each function.
> >> >
> >> > Might I mussunderstood something (its late night here at my place) when
> >> > you where talking about using coreswitching involved for two drivers
> >> > therefore I remembered about those functions. Seems now you were talking
> >> > about chipcommon+b43 access sharing same window.
> >> >
> >> > As for core switching requirments for earlier SSB interconnects on PCI
> >> > hosts where there were no direct chipcommon access, that one can be
> >> > accomplished without spin_lock/mutex for b43 or b44 cores with proper
> >> > bus design.
> >> >
> >> > AXI doesn't need spinlocks/mutexes as both chipcommon and pci bridge are
> >> > available directly and b43 will be the only one requiring window access.
> >>
> >> Ahh, so while talking about 4 windows, I guess you counted fixes
> >> windows as well. That would be right, matching my knowledge.
> >>
> >> When asking question about amount of cores we may want to use
> >> simultaneously I didn't think about ChipCommon or PCIe. The real
> >> problem would be to support for example two 802.11 cores and one
> >> ethernet core at the same time. That gives us 3 cores while we have
> >> only 2 sliding windows.
> >
> > Would that really be a problem? Think of it. This combination
> > will only be available on embedded devices. But do we have windows
> > on embedded devices? I guess not. If AXI is similar to SSB, the MMIO
> > of all cores will always be mapped. So accesses can be done
> > without switch or lock.
> >
> > I do really think that engineers at broadcom are clever enough
> > to design a hardware that does not require expensive window sliding
> > all the time while operating.
Yes they are. As I've already mentioned earlier ssb/axi interconnects on
multifunctional pci bridges provide each function with separate sliding
windows, up to 4 functions on single pci bridge.

> 
> I also think so. When asking about amount of cores (non PCIe, non
> ChipCommon) which has to work simultaneously. I'm not sure if we will
> meet AI board with 2 cores (non PCIe, non ChipCommon) on PCIe host. I
> don't think we will see more than 2 cores (non PCIe, non ChipCommon)
> on PCIe host.
> 

Have nice day,
George



  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-07 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2011-04-05 22:30       ` [PATCH] ssb: Use pr_fmt and pr_<level>, remove CONFIG_SSB_SILENT Joe Perches
2011-04-06 14:18 ` [RFC][PATCH] bcmai: introduce AI driver Arend van Spriel
2011-04-06 18:02   ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-06 20:25     ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-06 20:40       ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-06 20:42         ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-06 20:57           ` Michael Büsch
2011-04-06 21:01             ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-06 21:08               ` Michael Büsch
2011-04-06 21:12                 ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-06 21:18                   ` George Kashperko
2011-04-06 23:20                     ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-07  0:00                       ` George Kashperko
2011-04-07  0:54                         ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-07  1:02                           ` George Kashperko
2011-04-07  7:54                           ` Michael Büsch
2011-04-07  8:58                             ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-07 18:50                               ` George Kashperko
2011-04-07  9:55                             ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-07 18:36                               ` George Kashperko [this message]
2011-04-06 21:20                   ` Michael Büsch
2011-04-08 16:56   ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-08 17:09     ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-08 17:14       ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-08 17:24     ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-08 17:27       ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-08 17:28         ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-08 17:31           ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-09  7:10       ` George Kashperko
2011-04-09 11:01         ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-10  8:01   ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-10  8:05     ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-10  8:24       ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-10  8:30         ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-10  9:33           ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-10 11:32             ` Rafał Miłecki
2011-04-10 14:36               ` Arend van Spriel
2011-04-10 16:11             ` George Kashperko

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