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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86,tlb: update mm_cpumask lazily
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 12:31:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1df2caa3-4c5d-4bd9-88bb-66a07bf1eb65@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241108143144.2f15fe35@imladris.surriel.com>

On 11/8/24 11:31, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On busy multi-threaded workloads, there can be significant contention
> on the mm_cpumask at context switch time.
> 
> Reduce that contention by updating mm_cpumask lazily, setting the CPU bit
> at context switch time (if not already set), and clearing the CPU bit at
> the first TLB flush sent to a CPU where the process isn't running.
> 
> When a flurry of TLB flushes for a process happen, only the first one
> will be sent to CPUs where the process isn't running. The others will
> be sent to CPUs where the process is currently running.

So I guess it comes down to balancing:

The cpumask_clear_cpu() happens on every mm switch which can be
thousands of times a second.  But it's _relatively_ cheap: dozens or a
couple hundred cycles.

with:

Skipping the cpumask_clear_cpu() will cause more TLB flushes. It can
cause at most one extra TLB flush for each time a process is migrated
off a CPU and never returns.  This is _relatively_ expensive: on the
order of thousands of cycles to send and receive an IPI.

Migrations are obviously the enemy here, but they're the enemy for lots
of _other_ reasons too, which is a really nice property.

The only thing I can think of that really worries me is some kind of
forked worker model where before this patch you would have:

 * fork()
 * run on CPU A
 * ... migrate to CPU B
 * malloc()/free(), needs to flush B only
 * exit()

and after:

 * fork()
 * run on CPU A
 * ... migrate to CPU B
 * malloc()/free(), needs to flush A+B, including IPI
 * exit()

Where that IPI wasn't needed at *all* before.  But that's totally contrived.

So I think this is the kind of thing we'd want to apply to -rc1 and let
the robots poke at it for a few weeks.  But it does seem like a sound
idea to me.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-08 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-08 19:31 [PATCH] x86,tlb: update mm_cpumask lazily Rik van Riel
2024-11-08 20:03 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-08 20:07   ` Rik van Riel
2024-11-08 20:10     ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-08 20:31 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2024-11-08 20:41   ` Rik van Riel
2024-11-08 20:46 ` Dave Hansen

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