wvlan_cs in limbo?

wvlan_cs in limbo?

[Peter Hutnick]

I can't figure out which end is up with wvlan_cs.  Not in the kernel yet . . 
. but pcmcia-cs package is not for use with 2.4.

Could someone give me a hint?

Thanks,
Peter

Re: wvlan_cs in limbo?

[John Jasen]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Peter Hutnick wrote:

> I can't figure out which end is up with wvlan_cs.  Not in the kernel yet . .
> . but pcmcia-cs package is not for use with 2.4.
>
> Could someone give me a hint?

I don't understand why you think that pcmcia-cs is not for use in 2.4. I
use it on my laptop, which was just recently moved to 2.4.17.

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Re: wvlan_cs in limbo?

[Peter Hutnick]

On Monday 25 February 2002 09:03 pm, John Jasen wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Peter Hutnick wrote:
> > I can't figure out which end is up with wvlan_cs.  Not in the kernel yet
> > . . . but pcmcia-cs package is not for use with 2.4.
> >
> > Could someone give me a hint?
>
> I don't understand why you think that pcmcia-cs is not for use in 2.4. I
> use it on my laptop, which was just recently moved to 2.4.17.

Because linux/Documentation/wavelan.txt says:

   "wvlan_cs" driver (Wavelan IEEE, GPL)
   -----------------
           o Config :      Not yet in kernel
           o Location :    Pcmcia package 3.1.10+
           o on-line doc : http://www.fasta.fh-dortmund.de/users/andy/wvlan/

and that page (@fasta.fh-dortmund.de) says:

   Download:Kernel 2.0.x / 2.1.x / 2.2.x:
    WaveLAN/IEEE Linux driver v1.0.4 (included in pcmcia-cs-3.1.15): 
   pcmcia-cs-3.1.15.tar.gz
    Linux wireless tools v19 (kernel 2.2.13 and earlier):
   wireless_tools.19.tar.gz
    Linux wireless tools v20 (kernel 2.2.14 and later):
   wireless_tools.20.tar.gz
 
   Kernel 2.3.x
    Note that kernel 2.3.x support is currently experimental.
    WaveLAN/IEEE Linux driver v1.0.4 (patch for kernel 2.3.50):
   linux-2.3.50-wvlan.patch.gz
    PCMCIA subsystem v3.1.15: pcmcia-cs-3.1.15.tar.gz
    Linux wireless tools v20: wireless_tools.20.tar.gz
 
and

   Since the linux kernel 2.4.x contains its own WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 driver,
   this standalone driver is depreciated. Try David Hinds pcmcia package
   and/or the linux kernel driver (orinoco_cs).

   and orinoco_cs from 2.4.17 doesn't work, but wvlan_cs that came with my RH 
   kernel does.

but, I checked out the actual pcmcia-cs page, and it looks like I have to 
abandon my working PCMCIA stuff, is that right?

I'm open to suggestions.  Off list, if you don't mind, being as how I'm off 
topic now.

-Peter

Re: wvlan_cs in limbo?

[Jason Cook]

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* Peter Hutnick (peter@fpcc.net) wrote:
> On Monday 25 February 2002 09:03 pm, John Jasen wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Peter Hutnick wrote:
> > > I can't figure out which end is up with wvlan_cs.  Not in the kernel yet
> > > . . . but pcmcia-cs package is not for use with 2.4.
> > >
> > > Could someone give me a hint?
> >
> > I don't understand why you think that pcmcia-cs is not for use in 2.4. I
> > use it on my laptop, which was just recently moved to 2.4.17.
> 

From what I understand the wvlan_cs driver is being phased out and
replaced by the much improved orinoco_cs driver.

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Re: wvlan_cs in limbo?

[Peter Hutnick]

On Thursday 28 February 2002 03:29 pm, Jason Cook wrote:
> * Peter Hutnick (peter@fpcc.net) wrote:
> > On Monday 25 February 2002 09:03 pm, John Jasen wrote:
> > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Peter Hutnick wrote:
> > > > I can't figure out which end is up with wvlan_cs.  Not in the kernel
> > > > yet . . . but pcmcia-cs package is not for use with 2.4.
> > > >
> > > > Could someone give me a hint?
> > >
> > > I don't understand why you think that pcmcia-cs is not for use in 2.4.
> > > I use it on my laptop, which was just recently moved to 2.4.17.
>
> From what I understand the wvlan_cs driver is being phased out and
> replaced by the much improved orinoco_cs driver.

I guess "improved" is somewhat subjective.  It doesn't work with my card :-(

The wvlan_cs driver is in the current pcmcia-cs package, but isn't built with 
"make all."  I'm "just an end user" so I am not really cut out for figuring 
out how to build it manually.

Too bad there is no pcmcia-cs mailing list :-(

Guess I'll stick with the working stuff that came with my distro and try the 
main tree kernel again around 2.4.21.

-Peter

Re: wvlan_cs in limbo?

[John Jasen]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Peter Hutnick wrote:

> The wvlan_cs driver is in the current pcmcia-cs package, but isn't built with
> "make all."  I'm "just an end user" so I am not really cut out for figuring
> out how to build it manually.

pcmcia-cs does not build modules if, by fading memory, the kernel has
pcmcia and cardbus support enabled.

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Re: wvlan_cs in limbo?

[Peter Hutnick]

On Thursday 28 February 2002 04:35 pm, John Jasen wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Peter Hutnick wrote:
> > The wvlan_cs driver is in the current pcmcia-cs package, but isn't built
> > with "make all."  I'm "just an end user" so I am not really cut out for
> > figuring out how to build it manually.
>
> pcmcia-cs does not build modules if, by fading memory, the kernel has
> pcmcia and cardbus support enabled.

RIght.  Turned it off.  It built a bunch of /other/ modules.

Thanks, though.

-Peter

Re: wvlan_cs in limbo?

[John Jasen]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Peter Hutnick wrote:

> > pcmcia-cs does not build modules if, by fading memory, the kernel has
> > pcmcia and cardbus support enabled.
>
> RIght.  Turned it off.  It built a bunch of /other/ modules.

Try rebuilding the kernel without wireless support, then rebuilding
pcmcia-cs?

I built pcmcia-cs 3.1.31 against 2.4.17, and I have wvlan_cs in
/lib/modules/`uname -r`/pcmcia.

Email me offlist, and I'll send you configs and whatever else I can do to
help.

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