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From: Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: fadvise syscall?
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:20:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020317192028.U4836@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C945635.4050101@mandrakesoft.com> <3C945A5A.9673053F@zip.com.au> <3C945D7D.8040703@mandrakesoft.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020317131910.0522b490@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020317131910.0522b490@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>; from aia21@cam.ac.uk on Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:41:37PM +0000

On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:41:37PM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> When you want large data streaming, i.e. you start getting worried about 
> memory pressure, then you want open(2) + O_DIRECT. No caching done. Perfect 
> for large data streams and we have that already. I agree that you may want 
> some form of asynchronous read ahead with passed pages being dropped from 
> the cache but that could be just a open(2) + O_SEQUENTIAL (doesn't exist yet).

	O_DIRECT isn't the right thing for large streaming.  You want
readahead and dropbehind.  O_DIRECT takes substantial penalties for its
lack of copy/cacheing.  This works fine in certain circumstances
(applications that keep their own caching), but for something like a
video or mp3, you'll win with working dropbehind easily.

Joel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-17 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-17  8:39 fadvise syscall? Jeff Garzik
2002-03-17  8:56 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-17  9:10   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-17 20:18     ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-17 13:41   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-17 14:31     ` Simon Richter
2002-03-17 14:56       ` Jan Hudec
2002-03-17 15:00     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-17 19:20     ` Joel Becker [this message]
2002-03-17 23:59     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-18  7:28     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-18  7:55       ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-18  8:07         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-18  8:17           ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-18 16:41         ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-18 19:00           ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-18 19:15             ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-22 16:05       ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-24  6:38         ` Stevie O
2002-03-24 11:24           ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-24 12:52             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-25 11:12               ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-18  8:05     ` Joel Becker
2002-03-18  8:10       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-18  8:20         ` Joel Becker
2002-03-18  8:14       ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-18 14:39         ` Martin K. Petersen
2002-03-18 19:15           ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-18 19:42             ` Martin K. Petersen
2002-03-19 20:08               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-19 23:38                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2002-03-17 15:13 ` Ken Hirsch
2002-03-17 17:14 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-17 18:31   ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-17 18:35   ` Ken Hirsch
2002-03-17 19:06   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-17 20:19     ` Ken Hirsch
2002-03-18  0:12     ` Anton Altaparmakov
     [not found]       ` <a73ujs$5mc$1@cesium.transmeta.com>
2002-03-18  8:58         ` Jan Hudec
2002-03-18 10:08           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-18 17:29             ` Mark Mielke

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