Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Keith Owens]

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Release 2.1 of kernel build for kernel 2.5 (kbuild 2.5) is available.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbuild/, Package kbuild-2.5, download
release 2.1.

Basically a collection of the latest files from Release 2.0 plus some
minor bug fixes.  You know the code is getting stable when most of the
changes are documentation and white space from Lindent :).

   kbuild-2.5-core-6.bz2

   kbuild-2.5-common-2.4.18-5.bz2
   kbuild-2.5-i386-2.4.18-2.bz2

   kbuild-2.5-common-2.5.8-1.bz2
   kbuild-2.5-i386-2.5.8-1.bz2

Changes from core-5.

   Run pre-processing programs through scrips/Lindent.

   Document select_elsewhere(), require that select_elsewhere() objects
   begin with '/'.

   Document the interaction of link_subdirs() and base_target(), with
   particular reference to boot loaders.

   Refresh record pointer in run_db_child_recurse() after calling user
   function, the record might have moved.

   Correct handling of objects that are used in both vmlinux and other
   targets, e.g. boot loaders.

   Do not write back records when closing a corrupt database.

   Delete some old debugging code, left in by mistake.

   Correct refresh of timestamps on dependencies that are generated by
   other commands.

2.4.19-pre<n>, 2.4.18-ia64-020410, 2.5.8-ia64-020415 to follow.

Could other arch maintainers check their code against core-6 and
common-2.5.8 and either tell me that no change is required or send me
the updates.

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Re: Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Keith Owens]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:43:08 +1000, 
Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au> wrote:
>   kbuild-2.5-common-2.5.8-1.bz2

That file has a one bit error on download[*] and fails the bunzip CRC
checks.  New copy uploaded as kbuild-2.5-common-2.5.8-3.bz2.  No
change, new name to defeat http caching.  -2 had the same problem,
hence -3.

[*] Might be the upload, might be sourceforge, might be the local
    Telstra web proxy.  DKDC, do a fresh copy just in case.

Re: Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Daniel Phillips]

On Sunday 21 April 2002 09:43, Keith Owens wrote:
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> 
> Release 2.1 of kernel build for kernel 2.5 (kbuild 2.5) is available.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbuild/, Package kbuild-2.5, download
> release 2.1.

Hi Keith,

Have you got an update on first-time build performance?  Not that I'm all
that worried about it, incremental performance is *way* more important to
me, however, first-time performance seems to be something of a predictor
of when your work will get into mainline.

I'm marking each day that kbuild 2.5 isn't in mainline on the wall of my
little cave here, as every day kbuild 2.bad.old continues find some way of
wasting my time.

By the way, is there a reason for not providing a single bzip of all the
2.4 + 2.5 files?  Not that the slight inconvenience matters all that much,
since hopefully it will all be in mainline soon.

Downloaded, installing...

-- 
Daniel

Re: Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Keith Owens]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:32:35 +0200, 
Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net> wrote:
>On Sunday 21 April 2002 09:43, Keith Owens wrote:
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> Release 2.1 of kernel build for kernel 2.5 (kbuild 2.5) is available.
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbuild/, Package kbuild-2.5, download
>> release 2.1.
>
>Have you got an update on first-time build performance?

30% faster than the existing kernel build system.

>By the way, is there a reason for not providing a single bzip of all the
>2.4 + 2.5 files?  Not that the slight inconvenience matters all that much,
>since hopefully it will all be in mainline soon.

Everybody needs different bits (2.4 vs 2.5, i386 vs ia64) and each bit
is being updated separately.

Re: Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Daniel Phillips]

On Tuesday 23 April 2002 01:00, Keith Owens wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:32:35 +0200, 
> Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net> wrote:
> >On Sunday 21 April 2002 09:43, Keith Owens wrote:
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >> 
> >> Release 2.1 of kernel build for kernel 2.5 (kbuild 2.5) is available.
> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbuild/, Package kbuild-2.5, download
> >> release 2.1.
> >
> >Have you got an update on first-time build performance?
> 
> 30% faster than the existing kernel build system.

Egad.  And we're waiting for what, exactly?

> >By the way, is there a reason for not providing a single bzip of all the
> >2.4 + 2.5 files?  Not that the slight inconvenience matters all that much,
> >since hopefully it will all be in mainline soon.
> 
> Everybody needs different bits (2.4 vs 2.5, i386 vs ia64) and each bit
> is being updated separately.

Forget I said *anything at all* above.  You can do no wrong.

-- 
Daniel

Re: Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Keith Owens]

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:04:12 +0200, 
Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net> wrote:
>On Tuesday 23 April 2002 01:00, Keith Owens wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:32:35 +0200, 
>> Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net> wrote:
>> >On Sunday 21 April 2002 09:43, Keith Owens wrote:
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> >> 
>> >> Release 2.1 of kernel build for kernel 2.5 (kbuild 2.5) is available.
>> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbuild/, Package kbuild-2.5, download
>> >> release 2.1.
>> >
>> >Have you got an update on first-time build performance?
>> 
>> 30% faster than the existing kernel build system.
>
>Egad.  And we're waiting for what, exactly?

For me to be satisfied that the code is stable, the rewrite with go
faster stripes is less than four weeks old.

For more arch maintainers to convert 2.5.8/arch/$(ARCH) to kbuild 2.5.
i386 is converted, I am working on ia64, Tom Duffy is working on
sparc64, Greg Banks is working on superh.  I would like patches for
ppc, s390, alpha etc. as well but will go without them if necessary,
they can catch up later.

Then I will contact Linus.

Re: Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Keith Owens]

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:54:12 +1000, 
Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au> wrote:
>For more arch maintainers to convert 2.5.8/arch/$(ARCH) to kbuild 2.5.

Make that 2.5.9.  kbuild 2.5 patches coming soon.

Re: Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Alex Riesen]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 05:43:08PM +1000, Keith Owens wrote:
> 
> Release 2.1 of kernel build for kernel 2.5 (kbuild 2.5) is available.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbuild/, Package kbuild-2.5, download
> release 2.1.
> 

Hi, i've got some problems with 2.1:

First, i needed to interrupt the build (Ctrl-C), did that,
and once i let it really run freely, got this:

$ time nice -4 make -f Makefile-2.5 CC=/usr/bin/gcc
Using ARCH='i386' AS='as' LD='ld' CC='/usr/bin/gcc' CPP='/usr/bin/gcc -E'
 AR='ar' HOSTAS='as' HOSTLD='gcc' HOSTCC='gcc' HOSTAR='ar'
Generating global Makefile
  phase 1 (find all inputs)
pp_makefile1: .tmp_db_main was not shut down correctly, forcing complete rebuild
pp_makefile1: .../v2.5-1/scripts/pp_db.c:158: alloc_db_chunk: Assertion `__tv.dptr' failed.
make: *** [phase1] Error 134

trying to make clean didn't help, btw. I removed .tmp* and did make
oldconfig (suggested by kbuild), which helped.


Next, i needed to comment out line about dc2xx.o in
drivers/usb/image/Makefile.in (it doesn't has source anymore) to make it
compile.


And the last:
.../v2.5-1/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S:223: unterminated character constant
.../v2.5-1/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S:264: unterminated character constant
.../v2.5-1/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S:280: unterminated character constant


That was Linus's bk tree (cset 1.562)
+ kbuild-2.5-core-4
+ kbuild-2.5-common-2.5.8-pre3-1
+ kbuild-2.5-i386-2.5.8-pre3-1

P.S. "phase 1" for xconfig is evil, is it absolutely unavoidable?

Re: Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Keith Owens]

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:36:06 +0200, 
Alex Riesen <Alexander.Riesen@synopsys.com> wrote:
>On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 05:43:08PM +1000, Keith Owens wrote:
>> 
>> Release 2.1 of kernel build for kernel 2.5 (kbuild 2.5) is available.
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbuild/, Package kbuild-2.5, download
>> release 2.1.
>> 
>
>Hi, i've got some problems with 2.1:
>.../v2.5-1/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S:223: unterminated character constant
>.../v2.5-1/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S:264: unterminated character constant
>.../v2.5-1/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S:280: unterminated character constant
>That was Linus's bk tree (cset 1.562)
>+ kbuild-2.5-core-4
>+ kbuild-2.5-common-2.5.8-pre3-1
>+ kbuild-2.5-i386-2.5.8-pre3-1

Those are not release 2.1 files, you are using old patches.  Release
2.1 uses core-6 and patches for 2.5.8, not 2.5.8-pre3.

>P.S. "phase 1" for xconfig is evil, is it absolutely unavoidable?

Yes.  A driver may not be in the main kernel source tree, it can be in
a separate tree.  Phase 1 finds all the files in all trees, including
config files.

Re: Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Alex Riesen]

oops, sorry about the trouble.

This time:
+ kbuild-2.5-core-6
+ kbuild-2.5-common-2.5.8-3
+ kbuild-2.5-i386-2.5.8-1

Small issue with generation of defkeymap.c:
i got error that there was no permission to write in the file from
/bin/sh. Sorry, accidentially typed Ctrl-L in terminal and the error was
lost. I'll try to reproduce it (it's not every time).

Btw, why it isn't possible to run "make clean installable"?
Or at least "make clean oldconfig installable"?


On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 09:03:34AM +1000, Keith Owens wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:36:06 +0200, 
> Alex Riesen <Alexander.Riesen@synopsys.com> wrote:
> >On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 05:43:08PM +1000, Keith Owens wrote:
> >> 
> >> Release 2.1 of kernel build for kernel 2.5 (kbuild 2.5) is available.
> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbuild/, Package kbuild-2.5, download
> >> release 2.1.
> >> 
> >
> >Hi, i've got some problems with 2.1:
> >.../v2.5-1/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S:223: unterminated character constant
> >.../v2.5-1/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S:264: unterminated character constant
> >.../v2.5-1/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S:280: unterminated character constant
> >That was Linus's bk tree (cset 1.562)
> >+ kbuild-2.5-core-4
> >+ kbuild-2.5-common-2.5.8-pre3-1
> >+ kbuild-2.5-i386-2.5.8-pre3-1
> 
> Those are not release 2.1 files, you are using old patches.  Release
> 2.1 uses core-6 and patches for 2.5.8, not 2.5.8-pre3.
> 
> >P.S. "phase 1" for xconfig is evil, is it absolutely unavoidable?
> 
> Yes.  A driver may not be in the main kernel source tree, it can be in
> a separate tree.  Phase 1 finds all the files in all trees, including
> config files.

Re: Announce: Kernel Build for 2.5, Release 2.1 is available

[Keith Owens]

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:23:31 +0200, 
Alex Riesen <Alexander.Riesen@synopsys.com> wrote:
>Small issue with generation of defkeymap.c:
>i got error that there was no permission to write in the file from
>/bin/sh. Sorry, accidentially typed Ctrl-L in terminal and the error was
>lost. I'll try to reproduce it (it's not every time).

Standard problem when the kernel ships files that are also overwritten
at run time.  You get permission problems if the kernel code is marked
read only.  After kbuild 2.5 goes in I have a list of FIXME files to
clean up.

>Btw, why it isn't possible to run "make clean installable"?
>Or at least "make clean oldconfig installable"?

Race conditions when running parallel make.  With kbuild 2.5 you do not
need to make clean before building, unlike the existing build system,
kbuild 2.5 gets it right.