* efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel
@ 2002-06-24 19:34 Mala Anand
2002-06-24 19:33 ` David S. Miller
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Mala Anand @ 2002-06-24 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List, lse-tech
Here is a 2.5.19 patch that improves the performance of IA32 copy_to_user
and copy_from_user routines used by :
(1) tcpip protocol stack
(2) file systems
The 2.5.19 copy routines use the movsl instruction. We found that when the
src or dst addresses are not aligned on 8 bytes, performance can be
improved
by using the integer registers instead of the movsl instruction. For
tcpip,
the src or dst addresses are often misaligned.
The patch uses the integer registers if :
(1) length of the copy >= 64 AND src or dst not aligned on 8 bytes.
We found that the patch improves both network throughput and overall
CPU utilization of the sender/receiver when tested using netperf.
Here are some netperf (www.netperf.org) 2.5.19 UP results with and without
the patch :
client & server used for test : 996MHz Pentium III Intel PRO/1000 Gb
netperf 12865 -l 60 -H perf1 -t TCP_STREAM -c -C -i 10,2 -I 95,10 -s 65536
-S 65536
The message size used by netperf was varied from 512...65536, MTU was 1500.
2.5.19 2.5.19+patch -- % improvement using patch --
msg Throughput Throughput Sender Receiver
size 10^6bits/s 10^6bits/s Throughput CPU CPU
512 741.84 842.00 13.5 % -1.6 % 0.0 %
1024 816.61 922.77 13.0 % -2.8 % 0.0 %
2048 854.06 940.02 10.1 % -4.7 % 10.0 %
4096 913.12 940.12 3.0 % -1.5 % 19.9 %
8192 925.36 940.34 1.7 % -16.3 % 27.9 %
16384 936.51 935.84 -0.1 % 1.8 % 33.4 %
32768 875.11 892.54 2.0 % -2.5 % 33.9 %
65536 885.79 930.38 5.0 % -21.0 % 13.3 %
We also instrumented the copy routines in order to measure the number of
CPU cycles required to copy a 1448 byte piece of memory :
buffer CPU
method aligned cycles
------ ------- ------
movsl YES 3000
movsl NO 7000
integer NO 4000
Badari Pulavarty has suggested using mmx registers instead of integer
registers in the unrolled loop copy method. We are both investigating
the performance of the copy routines when the mmx registers are used.
Regards,
Mala
Mala Anand
E-mail:manand@us.ibm.com
Linux Technology Center - Performance
Phone:838-8088; Tie-line:678-8088
Here is the patch:
diff -Naur linux-519/include/asm-i386/uaccess.h
linux-519copy/include/asm-i386/uaccess.h
--- linux-519/include/asm-i386/uaccess.h Wed Jun 12 12:37:00 2002
+++ linux-519copy/include/asm-i386/uaccess.h Mon Jun 17 07:52:46 2002
@@ -253,55 +253,199 @@
*/
/* Generic arbitrary sized copy. */
-#define __copy_user(to,from,size) \
-do { \
- int __d0, __d1; \
- __asm__ __volatile__( \
- "0: rep; movsl\n" \
- " movl %3,%0\n" \
- "1: rep; movsb\n" \
- "2:\n" \
- ".section .fixup,\"ax\"\n" \
- "3: lea 0(%3,%0,4),%0\n" \
- " jmp 2b\n" \
- ".previous\n" \
- ".section __ex_table,\"a\"\n" \
- " .align 4\n" \
- " .long 0b,3b\n" \
- " .long 1b,2b\n" \
- ".previous" \
- : "=&c"(size), "=&D" (__d0), "=&S" (__d1) \
- : "r"(size & 3), "0"(size / 4), "1"(to), "2"(from) \
- : "memory"); \
-} while (0)
+#define __copy_user(to,from,size) \
+do { \
+ int __d0, __d1, __d2; \
+ __asm__ __volatile__( \
+ " cmpl $63, %0\n" \
+ " jbe 5f\n" \
+ " mov %%si, %%ax\n" \
+ " test $7, %%al\n" \
+ " jz 5f\n" \
+ " .align 2,0x90\n" \
+ "0: movl 32(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " cmpl $67, %0\n" \
+ " jbe 1f\n" \
+ " movl 64(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " .align 2,0x90\n" \
+ "1: movl 0(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " movl 4(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ "2: movl %%eax, 0(%3)\n" \
+ "21: movl %%edx, 4(%3)\n" \
+ " movl 8(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " movl 12(%4),%%edx\n" \
+ "3: movl %%eax, 8(%3)\n" \
+ "31: movl %%edx, 12(%3)\n" \
+ " movl 16(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " movl 20(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ "4: movl %%eax, 16(%3)\n" \
+ "41: movl %%edx, 20(%3)\n" \
+ " movl 24(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " movl 28(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ "10: movl %%eax, 24(%3)\n" \
+ "51: movl %%edx, 28(%3)\n" \
+ " movl 32(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " movl 36(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ "11: movl %%eax, 32(%3)\n" \
+ "61: movl %%edx, 36(%3)\n" \
+ " movl 40(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " movl 44(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ "12: movl %%eax, 40(%3)\n" \
+ "71: movl %%edx, 44(%3)\n" \
+ " movl 48(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " movl 52(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ "13: movl %%eax, 48(%3)\n" \
+ "81: movl %%edx, 52(%3)\n" \
+ " movl 56(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " movl 60(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ "14: movl %%eax, 56(%3)\n" \
+ "91: movl %%edx, 60(%3)\n" \
+ " addl $-64, %0\n" \
+ " addl $64, %4\n" \
+ " addl $64, %3\n" \
+ " cmpl $63, %0\n" \
+ " ja 0b\n" \
+ "5: movl %0, %%eax\n" \
+ " shrl $2, %0\n" \
+ " andl $3, %%eax\n" \
+ " cld\n" \
+ "6: rep; movsl\n" \
+ " movl %%eax, %0\n" \
+ "7: rep; movsb\n" \
+ "8:\n" \
+ ".section .fixup,\"ax\"\n" \
+ "9: lea 0(%%eax,%0,4),%0\n" \
+ " jmp 8b\n" \
+ "15: movl %6, %0\n" \
+ " jmp 8b\n" \
+ ".previous\n" \
+ ".section __ex_table,\"a\"\n" \
+ " .align 4\n" \
+ " .long 2b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 21b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 3b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 31b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 4b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 41b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 10b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 51b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 11b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 61b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 12b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 71b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 13b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 81b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 14b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 91b,15b\n" \
+ " .long 6b,9b\n" \
+ " .long 7b,8b\n" \
+ ".previous" \
+ : "=&c"(size), "=&D" (__d0), "=&S" (__d1) \
+ : "1"(to), "2"(from), "0"(size),"i"(-EFAULT) \
+ : "eax", "edx", "memory"); \
+ } while (0)
+
#define __copy_user_zeroing(to,from,size) \
do { \
- int __d0, __d1; \
+ int __d0, __d1, __d2; \
__asm__ __volatile__( \
- "0: rep; movsl\n" \
- " movl %3,%0\n" \
- "1: rep; movsb\n" \
- "2:\n" \
- ".section .fixup,\"ax\"\n" \
- "3: lea 0(%3,%0,4),%0\n" \
- "4: pushl %0\n" \
- " pushl %%eax\n" \
- " xorl %%eax,%%eax\n" \
- " rep; stosb\n" \
- " popl %%eax\n" \
- " popl %0\n" \
- " jmp 2b\n" \
- ".previous\n" \
- ".section __ex_table,\"a\"\n" \
- " .align 4\n" \
- " .long 0b,3b\n" \
- " .long 1b,4b\n" \
- ".previous" \
- : "=&c"(size), "=&D" (__d0), "=&S" (__d1) \
- : "r"(size & 3), "0"(size / 4), "1"(to), "2"(from) \
- : "memory"); \
-} while (0)
+ " cmpl $63, %0\n" \
+ " jbe 5f\n" \
+ " movl %%di, %%ax\n" \
+ " test $7, %%al\n" \
+ " jz 5f\n" \
+ " .align 2,0x90\n" \
+ "0: movl 32(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " cmpl $67, %0\n" \
+ " jbe 2f\n" \
+ "1: movl 64(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ " .align 2,0x90\n" \
+ "2: movl 0(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ "21: movl 4(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ " movl %%eax, 0(%3)\n" \
+ " movl %%edx, 4(%3)\n" \
+ "3: movl 8(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ "31: movl 12(%4),%%edx\n" \
+ " movl %%eax, 8(%3)\n" \
+ " movl %%edx, 12(%3)\n" \
+ "4: movl 16(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ "41: movl 20(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ " movl %%eax, 16(%3)\n" \
+ " movl %%edx, 20(%3)\n" \
+ "10: movl 24(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ "51: movl 28(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ " movl %%eax, 24(%3)\n" \
+ " movl %%edx, 28(%3)\n" \
+ "11: movl 32(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ "61: movl 36(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ " movl %%eax, 32(%3)\n" \
+ " movl %%edx, 36(%3)\n" \
+ "12: movl 40(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ "71: movl 44(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ " movl %%eax, 40(%3)\n" \
+ " movl %%edx, 44(%3)\n" \
+ "13: movl 48(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ "81: movl 52(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ " movl %%eax, 48(%3)\n" \
+ " movl %%edx, 52(%3)\n" \
+ "14: movl 56(%4), %%eax\n" \
+ "91: movl 60(%4), %%edx\n" \
+ " movl %%eax, 56(%3)\n" \
+ " movl %%edx, 60(%3)\n" \
+ " addl $-64, %0\n" \
+ " addl $64, %4\n" \
+ " addl $64, %3\n" \
+ " cmpl $63, %0\n" \
+ " ja 0b\n" \
+ "5: movl %0, %%eax\n" \
+ " shrl $2, %0\n" \
+ " andl $3, %%eax\n" \
+ " cld\n" \
+ "6: rep; movsl\n" \
+ " movl %%eax,%0\n" \
+ "7: rep; movsb\n" \
+ "8:\n" \
+ ".section .fixup,\"ax\"\n" \
+ "9: lea 0(%%eax,%0,4),%0\n" \
+ "16: pushl %0\n" \
+ " pushl %%eax\n" \
+ " xorl %%eax,%%eax\n" \
+ " rep; stosb\n" \
+ " popl %%eax\n" \
+ " popl %0\n" \
+ " jmp 8b\n" \
+ "15: movl %6, %0\n" \
+ " jmp 8b\n" \
+ ".previous\n" \
+ ".section __ex_table,\"a\"\n" \
+ " .align 4\n" \
+ " .long 0b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 1b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 2b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 21b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 3b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 31b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 4b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 41b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 10b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 51b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 11b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 61b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 12b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 71b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 13b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 81b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 14b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 91b,16b\n" \
+ " .long 6b,9b\n" \
+ " .long 7b,16b\n" \
+ ".previous" \
+ : "=&c"(size), "=&D" (__d0), "=&S" (__d1) \
+ : "1"(to), "2"(from), "0"(size),"i"(-EFAULT) \
+ : "eax", "edx", "memory"); \
+ } while (0)
/* We let the __ versions of copy_from/to_user inline, because they're
often
* used in fast paths and have only a small space overhead.
@@ -578,24 +722,16 @@
}
#define copy_to_user(to,from,n) \
- (__builtin_constant_p(n) ? \
- __constant_copy_to_user((to),(from),(n)) : \
- __generic_copy_to_user((to),(from),(n)))
+ __generic_copy_to_user((to),(from),(n))
#define copy_from_user(to,from,n) \
- (__builtin_constant_p(n) ? \
- __constant_copy_from_user((to),(from),(n)) : \
- __generic_copy_from_user((to),(from),(n)))
+ __generic_copy_from_user((to),(from),(n))
#define __copy_to_user(to,from,n) \
- (__builtin_constant_p(n) ? \
- __constant_copy_to_user_nocheck((to),(from),(n)) : \
- __generic_copy_to_user_nocheck((to),(from),(n)))
+ __generic_copy_to_user_nocheck((to),(from),(n))
#define __copy_from_user(to,from,n) \
- (__builtin_constant_p(n) ? \
- __constant_copy_from_user_nocheck((to),(from),(n)) : \
- __generic_copy_from_user_nocheck((to),(from),(n)))
+ __generic_copy_from_user_nocheck((to),(from),(n))
long strncpy_from_user(char *dst, const char *src, long count);
long __strncpy_from_user(char *dst, const char *src, long count);
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2002-06-24 19:34 efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel Mala Anand
@ 2002-06-24 19:33 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-24 20:24 ` [Lse-tech] " Niels Christiansen
2002-06-25 17:03 ` Andrew Morton
2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: David S. Miller @ 2002-06-24 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: manand; +Cc: linux-kernel, lse-tech
From: "Mala Anand" <manand@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:34:08 -0500
The 2.5.19 copy routines use the movsl instruction. We found that when the
src or dst addresses are not aligned on 8 bytes, performance can be
improved
by using the integer registers instead of the movsl instruction. For
tcpip,
the src or dst addresses are often misaligned.
If the code is going to become so much larger, move the implementation
out of the header file and into arch/i386/lib/foo.S
It makes no sense to inline it anymore if it is going to be
implemented with so many instructions.
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* Re: [Lse-tech] efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel
2002-06-24 19:34 efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel Mala Anand
2002-06-24 19:33 ` David S. Miller
@ 2002-06-24 20:24 ` Niels Christiansen
2002-06-25 17:03 ` Andrew Morton
2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Niels Christiansen @ 2002-06-24 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List, lse-tech
Mala,
As you may recall, I showed you results back in February with MMX registers
enabled. I also gave you a simple patch to test activate the use of the MMX
registers. It would be interesting if you could run your test with the MMX
patch so we could see the difference. In case you forgot the patch, it is
as simple as setting CONFIG_X86_USE_3DNOW on for Pentium III in
arch/i386/config.in.
Niels Christiansen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mala Anand" <manand@us.ibm.com>
To: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>;
<lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:34 PM
Subject: [Lse-tech] efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in
Linux Kernel
> Here is a 2.5.19 patch that improves the performance of IA32 copy_to_user
> and copy_from_user routines used by :
>
> (1) tcpip protocol stack
> (2) file systems
>
> Badari Pulavarty has suggested using mmx registers instead of integer
> registers in the unrolled loop copy method. We are both investigating
> the performance of the copy routines when the mmx registers are used.
>
> Regards,
> Mala
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* Re: efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel
2002-06-24 19:34 efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel Mala Anand
2002-06-24 19:33 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-24 20:24 ` [Lse-tech] " Niels Christiansen
@ 2002-06-25 17:03 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-25 17:43 ` kuznet
` (2 more replies)
2 siblings, 3 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2002-06-25 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mala Anand; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, lse-tech
Mala Anand wrote:
>
> Here is a 2.5.19 patch that improves the performance of IA32 copy_to_user
> and copy_from_user routines used by :
>
> (1) tcpip protocol stack
> (2) file systems
>
This came up about a year back when zerocopy networking was merged.
Intel boxes started running more slowly purely because of the 8+8
alignment thing.
I changed tcp to use a different copy if either source or dest were
not eight-byte aligned, and found that the resulting improvement
across a mixed networking load was only 1%. Your numbers are higher,
so perhaps there are different alignments in the mix...
One question: have you tested on other CPU types? This problem is
very specific to Intel hardware. On AMD, the eight-byte alignement
artifact does not exist at all. It could be that your patch is not
desirable on such CPUs?
-
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2002-06-25 17:03 ` Andrew Morton
@ 2002-06-25 17:43 ` kuznet
2002-06-25 19:47 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-26 13:54 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-06-25 18:58 ` [Lse-tech] " Niels Christiansen
2002-06-26 14:50 ` Bill Hartner
2 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: kuznet @ 2002-06-25 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: linux-kernel
Hello!
> I changed tcp to use a different copy if either source or dest were
> not eight-byte aligned, and found that the resulting improvement
> across a mixed networking load was only 1%. Your numbers are higher,
> so perhaps there are different alignments in the mix...
Did you look at sender or changed both of the functions?
After that accident TCP was changed and it does not use copy_from_user more,
it does copy_and_csum even when no checksum is required. So, his results
on sender side (except for strange anomaly at msg size 8K) just confirm
nil effect of copy_from_user.
What's about copy_to_user, we forgot about this at all,
worrying mostly about sender side. :-)
Alexey
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* Re: efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel
2002-06-25 17:43 ` kuznet
@ 2002-06-25 19:47 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-25 21:46 ` Chris Friesen
2002-06-26 13:54 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2002-06-25 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kuznet; +Cc: linux-kernel
kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> > I changed tcp to use a different copy if either source or dest were
> > not eight-byte aligned, and found that the resulting improvement
> > across a mixed networking load was only 1%. Your numbers are higher,
> > so perhaps there are different alignments in the mix...
>
> Did you look at sender or changed both of the functions?
I changed it to use csum_copy_from_user() instead of copy_from_user()
if the source and dest weren't 8-byte aligned. No other changes
in there.
> After that accident TCP was changed and it does not use copy_from_user more,
> it does copy_and_csum even when no checksum is required. So, his results
> on sender side (except for strange anomaly at msg size 8K) just confirm
> nil effect of copy_from_user.
Yup.
> What's about copy_to_user, we forgot about this at all,
> worrying mostly about sender side. :-)
We didn't really forget, but we were trying to get a 2.4 kernel out,
so it became a "fix in 2.5" item. You're right, we should fix it in
2.4.
I wrote a little app to test this - it times a couple of copy algorithms
at all possible alignments. It may be useful for someone... http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/cptimer.tar.gz
I think it covers everything - uncached/cache source/dest,
all possible transfer alignemnts.
The cost of getting it wrong is, iirc, 40% slowdown. In the
kernel's single most expensive function.
-
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* Re: efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel
2002-06-25 19:47 ` Andrew Morton
@ 2002-06-25 21:46 ` Chris Friesen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Chris Friesen @ 2002-06-25 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: linux-kernel
Andrew Morton wrote:
> I wrote a little app to test this - it times a couple of copy algorithms
> at all possible alignments. It may be useful for someone... http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/cptimer.tar.gz
> I think it covers everything - uncached/cache source/dest,
> all possible transfer alignemnts.
I have a problem.
[cfriesen@pcard0ks cptimer]$ ./report.sh
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
model name : Pentium III (Katmai)
stepping : 3
cpu MHz : 548.633
cache size : 512 KB
CP_OPTS= ./all-alignments.sh
expr: syntax error
expr: syntax error
expr: syntax error
expr: syntax error
expr: syntax error
expr: non-numeric argument
expr: syntax error
expr: non-numeric argument
expr: syntax error
expr: syntax error
Any ideas?
Chris
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* Re: efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel
2002-06-25 17:43 ` kuznet
2002-06-25 19:47 ` Andrew Morton
@ 2002-06-26 13:54 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Hirokazu Takahashi @ 2002-06-26 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: akpm; +Cc: kuznet, linux-kernel
Hello,
I have a patch which let sendmsg use copy_from_user instead of
csum_and_copy_from_user when a NIC supports HW-checksumming.
It just works on kernel 2.4, I haven't ported it on kernel 2.5 yet.
If you want it I'll port it after I come back from OTTAWA.
You can get the patch against kernel 2.4 from
ftp://ftp.valinux.co.jp/pub/people/taka/tune/2.4.17/va-udptcpchecksum-2.4.17-test1.patch
Would you try it?
> > I changed tcp to use a different copy if either source or dest were
> > not eight-byte aligned, and found that the resulting improvement
> > across a mixed networking load was only 1%. Your numbers are higher,
> > so perhaps there are different alignments in the mix...
>
> Did you look at sender or changed both of the functions?
>
> After that accident TCP was changed and it does not use copy_from_user more,
> it does copy_and_csum even when no checksum is required. So, his results
> on sender side (except for strange anomaly at msg size 8K) just confirm
> nil effect of copy_from_user.
>
> What's about copy_to_user, we forgot about this at all,
> worrying mostly about sender side. :-)
Thank you,
Hirokazu Takahashi.
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* Re: [Lse-tech] Re: efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel
2002-06-25 17:03 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-25 17:43 ` kuznet
@ 2002-06-25 18:58 ` Niels Christiansen
2002-06-25 19:11 ` Dave Jones
2002-06-26 14:50 ` Bill Hartner
2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Niels Christiansen @ 2002-06-25 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, lse-tech
Indeed, I ordered a P4 for these tests while still at IBM but AMD boxes are
not available to Mala, I believe. Before I got sacked, I even bought a P4
to test this and other things at home but I lost interest in the matter so
never actually got around to testing.
When I did test back in February I created a few test programs and found
that the code generated by GCC Version 3.x and the library that came with
RedHat 6.2 gave almost as good results as the patches Mala then had
available. Maybe it is time to see if the compiler has improved enough to
scrap the copy code in the kernel in favor of code as generated by the
compiler.
Niels
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: "Mala Anand" <manand@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>;
<lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: [Lse-tech] Re: efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines
in Linux Kernel
> Mala Anand wrote:
> >
> > Here is a 2.5.19 patch that improves the performance of IA32
copy_to_user
> > and copy_from_user routines used by :
> >
> > (1) tcpip protocol stack
> > (2) file systems
> >
>
> One question: have you tested on other CPU types? This problem is
> very specific to Intel hardware. On AMD, the eight-byte alignement
> artifact does not exist at all. It could be that your patch is not
> desirable on such CPUs?
>
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* Re: [Lse-tech] Re: efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel
2002-06-25 18:58 ` [Lse-tech] " Niels Christiansen
@ 2002-06-25 19:11 ` Dave Jones
2002-06-26 12:58 ` Andi Kleen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Dave Jones @ 2002-06-25 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Niels Christiansen; +Cc: Andrew Morton, Linux Kernel Mailing List, lse-tech
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 01:58:01PM -0500, Niels Christiansen wrote:
> Maybe it is time to see if the compiler has improved enough to
> scrap the copy code in the kernel in favor of code as generated by the
> compiler.
This came up about a month ago. I'll repeat what I said then.
"I'll believe it when I see it".
Dave
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| SuSE Labs
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2002-06-25 19:11 ` Dave Jones
@ 2002-06-26 12:58 ` Andi Kleen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andi Kleen @ 2002-06-26 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Jones, Niels Christiansen, Andrew Morton,
Linux Kernel Mailing List, lse-tech
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 09:11:27PM +0200, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 01:58:01PM -0500, Niels Christiansen wrote:
>
> > Maybe it is time to see if the compiler has improved enough to
> > scrap the copy code in the kernel in favor of code as generated by the
> > compiler.
>
> This came up about a month ago. I'll repeat what I said then.
> "I'll believe it when I see it".
Just look at the x86-64 port (2.5)
The code generated by gcc 3.1 is a lot better than the inline macros.
For example it knows the alignment of target/source and emits
unrolled big (4,2,1bytes) moves and some tricks.
We're using that on x86-64. For tricky cases (it cannot determine length
or alignment) it'll still call out to out of line functions, which
should be optimized, notably not just use rep ; s... like the inline macros
which isn't very efficient on Athlon.
-Andi
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* Re: [Lse-tech] Re: efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel
2002-06-25 17:03 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-25 17:43 ` kuznet
2002-06-25 18:58 ` [Lse-tech] " Niels Christiansen
@ 2002-06-26 14:50 ` Bill Hartner
2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Bill Hartner @ 2002-06-26 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: Mala Anand, Linux Kernel Mailing List, lse-tech
Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> Mala Anand wrote:
> >
> > Here is a 2.5.19 patch that improves the performance of IA32 copy_to_user
> > and copy_from_user routines used by :
...
>
> One question: have you tested on other CPU types? This problem is
> very specific to Intel hardware. On AMD, the eight-byte alignement
> artifact does not exist at all. It could be that your patch is not
> desirable on such CPUs?
>
In Mala's lab, there are a couple of 1.6 Ghz P4 systems that can be used to test on.
There is also a Netbench (P4 and PIII Xeon) and SPECweb99 (PIII Xeon) setup
that can be used for further testing.
There are some older P6 systems available too. Not sure about AMD yet.
Bill
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* Re: [Lse-tech] Re: efficient copy_to_user and copy_from_user routines in Linux Kernel
@ 2002-06-24 21:02 Mala Anand
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Mala Anand @ 2002-06-24 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David S. Miller; +Cc: linux-kernel, lse-tech, lse-tech-admin
>David Miller wrote..
>If the code is going to become so much larger, move the implementation
>out of the header file and into arch/i386/lib/foo.S
>It makes no sense to inline it anymore if it is going to be
>implemented with so many instructions.
I will do that. Thanks.
Regards,
Mala
Mala Anand
E-mail:manand@us.ibm.com
Linux Technology Center - Performance
Phone:838-8088; Tie-line:678-8088
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@ 2002-06-28 11:55 Mala Anand
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Mala Anand @ 2002-06-28 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Niels Christiansen
Cc: Andrew Morton, Linux Kernel Mailing List, lse-tech,
lse-tech-admin
Niels wrote..
>Indeed, I ordered a P4 for these tests while still at IBM but AMD boxes
are
>not available to Mala, I believe. Before I got sacked, I even bought a P4
>to test this and other things at home but I lost interest in the matter so
>never actually got around to testing.
>When I did test back in February I created a few test programs and found
>that the code generated by GCC Version 3.x and the library that came with
>RedHat 6.2 gave almost as good results as the patches Mala then had
>available. Maybe it is time to see if the compiler has improved enough to
>scrap the copy code in the kernel in favor of code as generated by the
>compiler.
I need to check this out. I don't remember getting these results from you.
If you still have them, please mail me the results and the generated
code.
Regards,
Mala
Mala Anand
E-mail:manand@us.ibm.com
Linux Technology Center - Performance
Phone:838-8088; Tie-line:678-8088
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