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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cantab.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sullivan@austin.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [BUG-2.5.24-BK] DriverFS panics on boot!
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:38:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020705073845.GJ1007@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10207042343400.23359-100000@master.linux-ide.org>

On Thu, Jul 04 2002, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Jens Axboe wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 04 2002, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> > > 	1) 8K writes and 64K (or larger) reads.
> > 
> > I've heard this before, but noone seems to have tested it yet. You know,
> > this is a couple of lines of change in ll_rw_blk.c and blkdev.h to
> > support this. Any reason you haven't done that, benched, and submitted
> > something to that effect? I'll even walk you through the 2.5 changes
> > needed to do this:
> 
> 
> [root@localhost mnt2]# bonnie -s 256

[snip bonnie results]

These mean nothing to me -- what are they, the base line or the changed
kernel? Or none of the above?!

> Using the hardware to help us and by working with it it, once can
> basically boost the write and slash the cpu usage.

You need to add some context to that statement.

> > > 	2) ONE maybe TWO passes on elevator operations.
> > 
> > Explain.
> 
> On writes restrict which are small the ordering is almost instant.
> Specifically ONE maybe TWO passes will sort.
> 
> Reads may need more as we optimize best on big reads.

So you are saying that writes don't need to be reordered as much,
because the drive typically does that? I guess that will always be true
with write back caching, I doubt that holds for write through.

And I don't quite follow the number of passes you compare, passes of
what? Insert and merge are a single pass per request, tops.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-05  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-04 15:41 [BUG-2.5.24-BK] DriverFS panics on boot! James Bottomley
2002-07-04 15:55 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-04 22:20 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-04 22:59   ` James Bottomley
2002-07-05  2:15     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-05  6:34       ` Jens Axboe
2002-07-05  6:51         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-05  7:38           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2002-07-05 22:43             ` Andre Hedrick
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-04 11:28 Anton Altaparmakov

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