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From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 6/12] hold atomic kmaps across generic_file_read
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:36:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020810183604.B306@kushida.apsleyroad.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208100005070.1474-100000@home.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 12:25:38AM -0700

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Imagine doing a
> 
> 	fstat(fd..)
> 	buf = aligned_malloc(st->st_size)
> 	read(fd, buf, st->st_size);
> 
> and having it magically populate the VM directly with the whole file
> mapping, with _one_ failed page fault. And the above is actually a fairly
> common thing. See how many people have tried to optimize using mmap vs
> read, and what they _all_ really wanted was this "populate the pages in
> one go" thing. 

This will only provide the performance benefic when `aligned_malloc'
return "fresh" memory, i.e. memory that has never been written to.

Assuming most programs use plain old `malloc', which could be taught to
align nicely, then the optimisation might occur when a program starts
up, but later on it's more likely to return memory which has been
written to and previously freed.  So the performance becomes unpredictable.

But it's a nice way to optimise if you are _deliberately_ optimising a
user space program.  First call mmap() to get some fresh pages, then
call read() to fill them.  Slower on kernels without the optimisation,
fast on kernels with it. :-)

-- Jamie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-08-10 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-10  0:57 [patch 6/12] hold atomic kmaps across generic_file_read Andrew Morton
2002-08-10  1:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10  3:53   ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-10  3:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10  6:12       ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-10  7:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10  9:08           ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-10 12:44           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-10 17:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 18:16               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-10 18:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 18:46                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-10 14:16           ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-10 17:03             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 17:36           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2002-08-10 17:46             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 17:55               ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-10 18:42                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 18:52                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-10 19:01                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-10 19:04                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-12 15:20                       ` Ingo Oeser
2002-08-12  0:18                     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-12 14:11                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-12 14:46                         ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-10 19:10                   ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-10 22:42                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-11  3:17                       ` Simon Kirby
2002-08-11  6:07                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11  8:46                           ` Simon Kirby
2002-08-11  9:36                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11  9:49                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 10:28                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 18:52                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-12  3:28                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12  3:27                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-12  4:08                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12  6:20                             ` Simon Kirby
2002-08-12  6:44                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12 19:43                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-08-12 20:43                                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11  8:00                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-11 19:00                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-11 19:43                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-11  0:34   ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11  0:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-11  1:27       ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12  7:45   ` Rusty Russell
2002-08-12  9:45     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-12 20:29       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-12 21:21         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-12 17:30     ` Linus Torvalds

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