From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 6/12] hold atomic kmaps across generic_file_read
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:52:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D556101.8080006@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0208101134510.2197-100000@home.transmeta.com
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> And read() is often the much nicer interface, simply because you don't
> need to worry about the size of the file up-front etc.
>
> Also, because of the delayed nature of mmap()/fault, it has some strange
> behaviour if somebody is editing your file in the middle of the compile -
> with read() you might get strange syntax errors if somebody changes the
> file half-way, but with mmap() your preprocessor may get a SIGSEGV in the
> middle just because the file was truncated..
>
> In general, I think read() tends to be the right (and simpler) interface
> to use if you don't explicitly want to take advantage of the things mmap
> offers (on-demand mappings, no-write-back pageouts, VM coherency etc).
While working on a race-free rewrite of cp/mv/rm (suggested by Al), I
did overall-time benchmarks on read+write versus sendfile/stat versus
mmap/stat, and found that pretty much the fastest way under Linux 2.2,
2.4, and solaris was read+write of PAGE_SIZE, or PAGE_SIZE*2 chunks.
[obviously, 2.2 and solaris didn't do sendfile test]
The overhead of the extra stat and mmap/munmap syscalls seemed to be the
thing that slowed things down. sendfile was pretty fast, but still an
extra syscall, with an annoyingly large error handling case [only
certain files can be sendfile'd]
I sure would like an O_STREAMING flag, though... let a user app hint to
the system that the pages it is reading or writing are perhaps less
likely to be reused, or access randomly.... A copy-file syscall would
be nice, too, but that's just laziness talking....
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-10 18:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-10 0:57 [patch 6/12] hold atomic kmaps across generic_file_read Andrew Morton
2002-08-10 1:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 3:53 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-10 3:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 6:12 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-10 7:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 9:08 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-10 12:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-10 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 18:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-10 18:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 18:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-10 14:16 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-10 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 17:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-10 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 17:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-10 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 18:52 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-08-10 19:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-08-10 19:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-12 15:20 ` Ingo Oeser
2002-08-12 0:18 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-12 14:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-08-12 14:46 ` David Woodhouse
2002-08-10 19:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-10 22:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-11 3:17 ` Simon Kirby
2002-08-11 6:07 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 8:46 ` Simon Kirby
2002-08-11 9:36 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 9:49 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 10:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-12 3:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12 3:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-12 4:08 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12 6:20 ` Simon Kirby
2002-08-12 6:44 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12 19:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-08-12 20:43 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 8:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-11 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-11 19:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-11 0:34 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-11 0:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-11 1:27 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-12 7:45 ` Rusty Russell
2002-08-12 9:45 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-12 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-12 21:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-12 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
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